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Someplace else maybe?Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
So what if the guy is, he/she has every right to learn how to do the **** the right way...
Last I checked, Antionline as a whole was sort of against teaching people how to write viruses :confused:
Ugh... Jag you fogot, I actually can code in those 2 languages, perl a lot better than my C.
I can definately code a Trojan or virus in perl, C might take a little more work.
Jag, you have no real room to talk, you have asked similiar questions in the pass.
11001001 if people continue to act as they are, I will post them. I really could care less, if you guys are against me. I have had all the seniors and addicts mad at me before.
I personally think that if you are going to not make a valid point, and not add anything positive to a thread, don't tell the person stupid ****. Most of the people that are replying can't program a virus or trojan or ****, in any language.
They are just jumping on the bandwagon.
Jag check your Pm's
Okay jizzkid, do it. Put your shitty coding skills up and lets see your monster virus...Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
Ugh... Jag you fogot, I actually can code in those 2 languages, perl a lot better than my C.
I can definately code a Trojan or virus in perl, C might take a little more work.
Jag, you have no real room to talk, you have asked similiar questions in the pass.
No room to talk? Point me toward my questions like that?
Alright we can't have this. I am sorry but I hate flaming and worse I hate people that flame and they are new themselves. I have been on this board for over a year now (used different nick) and I have watched newbies come on shoot off their mouth and soon they are begging for forgiveness.
I totally agree that this is a horrible discussion but it shows us something very important. We can very easily stop a thread by simply saying:
"We here at AO do not agree with the blah blah blah and if you continue to post **** like this we will come to your house lite it on fire drag your firery carcass our and beat you with a large blunt object...then we will had you off to gore!"
But there is no need for name calling and flaming.
- MilitantEidolon
The problem is that you can't derive his intent from the original post. I'm not clairvoyant, so I won't even begin to pretend to know what Poop782's motives are nor will I waste the time debating over the matter until he clarifies his intentions.
Poop782,
I would like it to be known that I couldn't code a virus if my life depended on it so, I couldn't help you if I wanted to. About the only two successfully destructive things I've ever done to a computer was delete the win.ini file and erase the registry. I don't consider my actions malicious because I would assume you would have to know that those are bad things to do...which at the time, I didn't (I was about 14 years old and computer retarded). :eek:
Anyways, my only suggestion to you would be to state your intentions as to why you're looking for this type of code and maybe the members will be more willing to help.
doesnt ****ing matter dude. big deal.Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
So what if the guy is, he/she has every right to learn how to do the **** the right way instead of downloading some shitty program to do it for them.
be coding.
who said we are here to teach people "just to learn" how to write malicious code?
What are you retarded?
example:
littlebilly: I would like to know how to write code that gets on someones computer and makes thousands of copies of itself until it eventually covers their entire harddrive.
whizkid: well, obviously you want to do this for learning purposes only, here: let me show you how this is done.
Ok.. sounds like a good plan eh mate? </sarcasm>
You would have to write code that would copy itself and edit the binary so the actual bytes are different but do the same task. Hydan is a tool that changes the guts of a binary, but keeps it the same size, and keeps it doing the same thing. In order to prevent detection from AV, it would have to change it's guts before it infects another host, and it would have to change every part of itself to prevent any part of it from being similar to the last.
That's how you answer a thread without actually telling the poster how to actually complete the task.
May I recommend the next time we visit AO without loging in that we read what AO is again..
As for the Question.. YEs we are quick to Flame on poorly written/poorly asked questions.. but then , refering to my first point, There are the site FAQ and Tutorials that discuss the asking of smart questions..
Some people here hate hearing this.. GOOGLE IT... use f****n Google and if you don't know the url its www.google.com. But then useing Google is a part of asking a smart question.. If your too bloody lazy to use google then why should we waste our time helping you.. just turn up at my office with a couple of hundred dollars and I will help you with lesson one..:)
As for writing a tutorial in how to write a virus or writing one to prove codeing skils.. For what end? there is a difference in "how a virus is written" and "How to Write A Virus" one is a security tutorial.. the other is a dumbass post...
Cheers
That's it. I've had it.
1. If you don't like what someone has posted, then shut up about it. Don't feed the trolls, don't post flames, and don't completely destroy any chance we have of turning his origonal intentions into an actual lesson of ethics. Just like teenagers, people who are new to computers are going to outright rebel against people who call them names, insult them, and otherwise act like dicks instead of actually doing the right thing and guiding them.
2. If you would like to help, but suspect someone's intentions are wrong, then look at the larger picture. Sure, maybe they are a script kiddie, so consider this an opprotunity. Instead of going "OMFG SCIDDIE 4EVA I H8 U SURX0R NEGS 4U" why not try and help them? Show them a better path. Show them why coding viruses are wrong. Show them the basis of how a virus works for the sheer knowledge and understanding of it. Instead of smashing their hands, try to guide them onto a better path through patience and understanding.
Don't act like none of you have ever asked a question that wasn't a bit suspicious or for self gain, because we have -all- been there once, even if for a brief moment until someone came and showed us the ropes without being a complete dick about it.
Whizkid, while I understand you're trying to be helpful and not scare off those new to AO, I believe the others have a point. We're here to prevent cracking and malicious acts for the most part and to teach security. Now, it's completely understandable to want to know how to do what he's asking, I'm curious myself sometimes, but out of the all four of the threads he's started, three havel had to do with how to code a virus/malicious-program or how a virus/malicious-program works.
Hey, Poop789, how about sticking around a while, share your knowledge, get to know us, and become a beneficial member to AntiOnline. Maybe then maybe your questions won't get viewed in such a negative light because we would know that you're just curious and don't have bad intensions. Just my two cents.
Regards,
Xierox