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How so? You don't have to cook them or boil them. Would you rather they sent you soup you couldn't heat up? Or Pizza or beef you couldn't cook?
Michigan sent DTE in to help Florida. You're welcome, no more batteries are needed. (DTE = Detroit Edison, the power people to get electricity back up and runnning).
Actually, soup would have been really helpful, we (and about 90% of the other people in this area) use propane for cooking and heating, so we could cook anything canned. As long as it didn't need water or refrigeration. As for the electric company....it was like a US tour around here seeing the different states utility trucks. I swear the only ones I didn't see were Alaska and Hawaii.
OK, next year when the next round of Hurricanes go in to spank Florida, I'll make sure I send a Campbell's truck instead of Pre-Baked Goldfish.
Uh... Gander and Halifax took every plane that was originally destined for the Eastern US Seaboard and let them stay at houses, feed them and accepted them without question.Quote:
MsMittens: No offense or anything (I really hope none is taken), but wtf did Canada do anyways? Better yet, what did they do that no other country didn't? And again, not to sound rude.. but who cares? I'm SURE he said thank you before just now because I saw it on the news. Canada was one of the first places he thanked for their "support" and what have you.
No one asked them. No one paid them. They did it because they felt a need to do it and because (based on interviews I remember watching afterwards) they would hope that if the roles were reversed the same would be done.Quote:
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Never in its 63-year history...has Gander..\..on the northeastern tip of North America, in Newfoundland...had to deal with a crush of the magnitude that descended on it this week, after the United States responded to terrorist attacks by closing American airspace to commercial traffic. A total of 240 aircraft were rerouted to Canada on Tuesday,
- * of which 39 landed in Gander...6,500 marooned airline passengers \in\ a town of 9,000 people.
* An additional 44 flights were diverted to Halifax, NS;
* 27 to St. John's, Newfoundland's biggest city [but not biggest airport];
* and 12 to Goose Bay in Labrador, where the airport is normally used as a NATO training base.
* On the other coast, [34] trans-Pacific flights were rerouted to Vancouver,
* while 3 landed in Whitehorse, capital of the Yukon Territory.
By [Friday] afternoon 14 of the 39 aircraft in Gander and all but 3 of the 34 aircraft in Vancouver had departed..\..
...Workers at three Zellers discount stores in St. John's...load[ed] hundreds of toothbrushes, deodorant sticks, blankets and pillows into a 30-foot trailer for the six-hour drive to Gander, where, on Wednesday morning, they were distributed to grounded travelers. "The support of the community has been overwhelming," said Maj. Alfred Richardson of the Salvation Army in Gander, as he described how local residents delivered 2,300 hot means on Tuesday within three hours of his televised appeal. Schools...closed since Wednesday so their gymnasiums could be used as makeshift dormitories. About a dozen local churches, as well as the Royal Canadian Legion and the Knights of Columbus, set up cots in their halls and basements....
Many of the east coast cities in Canada are small. Halifax is probably the largest but if you compare them with the size of places in Ontario, Quebec or New York, you'd know they don't have the resources, training or facilities to truly be able to handle it and particularly a city the size of Gander, which gets maybe a few dozen flights a day(??). But they did have the hearts.
And I'm sorry but that does deserve a bit of thanks. It's the right thing to do.
You can also read this article, The Kindness of Strangers, which gives more details.
Deb I don't need thanks. :D I was being sarcastic, BUT next year I will send water. :thumbsup: You do know it's a recurring thing right? :p
Here, more homage is paid in September 21, 2001
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September 21, 2001
C Street Entrance
Washington, D.C.
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It has been my great pleasure to welcome my Canadian colleague, John Manley, for another one of the many conversations that we have had in recent months. And it also gave me the opportunity as Secretary of State to thank him and to thank the Canadian people and the Canadian Government, and especially the Prime Minister, for all the solid support that Canada has given to the United States in the days since the 11th of September. It also gave me a chance to express my condolences to those Canadians who lost family members in the World Trade Center.
Canada was one of the first on the scene with all kinds of help for us in this time of crisis. Whether it was taking in some 20-odd thousand airline travelers who were stranded, there was no question about it. Canada welcomed, extended fine Canadian hospitality, took care of them and then finally helped us get those persons on the way to their destination. Canadian fighters assisted us in guarding our air space. Canadian volunteers came to New York to be of help. We had medical support, offers of blood, offers of rescue. Every imaginable offer we received from Canadian brothers and sisters, and the American people will be forever grateful for that offer of support and forever thankful.
Pack your baggage we're going on a guilt-trip.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted here by MsMittens
Uh... Gander and Halifax took every plane that was originally destined for the Eastern US Seaboard and let them stay at houses, feed them and accepted them without question.
No one asked them. No one paid them. They did it because they felt a need to do it and because (based on interviews I remember watching afterwards) they would hope that if the roles were reversed the same would be done.
Many of the east coast cities in Canada are small. Halifax is probably the largest but if you compare them with the size of places in Ontario, Quebec or New York, you'd know they don't have the resources, training or facilities to truly be able to handle it and particularly a city the size of Gander, which gets maybe a few dozen flights a day(??). But they did have the hearts.
And I'm sorry but that does deserve a bit of thanks. It's the right thing to do.
Ok, what type of accolades do you want MsMittens, is this about financial reimbursement? You just said "they felt a need to do it", so who needed to "ask them" or "pay them"? The Canadian government is the one you have beef with.
Umm... that was from Powell not Bush.
No. It's not about money. No one asked them. They just did. But courtesy, politeness and good neighbours usually suggests saying thank you when someone did something they really didn't need to or were asked to do. And when it's done on this scale, it's the least that can be done.Quote:
Ok, what type of accolades do you want MsMittens, is this about financial reimbursement? You just said "they felt a need to do it", so who needed to "ask them" or "pay them"? The Canadian government is the one you have beef with.
It's a principle thing. The leader of your nation thanked Mexico for all their help. He thanked endless other nations. But couldn't thank Canada. He had his Secretary of State, Colin Powell, do that. Why is it hard for your leader to do that?
Maybe I'm old fashioned but it just strikes me as something that a leader should do.
Oh.. and btw. Thanks. I was looking for that speech specifically and couldn't seem to find it. Where did you find it?
Powell serves at the pleasure of the President, and for the umpteenth time; Bush thanked Canada.Quote:
Originally posted here by MsMittens
Umm... that was from Powell not Bush.
No. It's not about money. No one asked them. They just did. But courtesy, politeness and good neighbours usually suggests saying thank you when someone did something they really didn't need to or were asked to do. And when it's done on this scale, it's the least that can be done.
It's a principle thing. The leader of your nation thanked Mexico for all their help. He thanked endless other nations. But couldn't thank Canada. He had his Secretary of State, Colin Powell, do that. Why is it hard for your leader to do that?
Maybe I'm old fashioned but it just strikes me as something that a leader should do.
Oh.. and btw. Thanks. I was looking for that speech specifically and couldn't seem to find it. Where did you find it?
09/24/01(Bush thanks Canadians for support following Sept. 11 attacks)
09/21/01 (Powell thanks Canadians for support following Sept. 11 attacks)
911 Conspiracy books are they best sellers in Canada like they are in France?
“La gran impostura” (The Frightening Fraud)
Thierry Meyssan, La Esfera de los Libros
“Le Pentagate”
Thierry Meyssan, ed., Éditions Carnot
“Verschwörungen, Versch-wörungstheorien und die Geheim-nisse des 11.9” (Conspiracies, conspiracy theories and the secrets of 9/11)
Mathias Bröckers, Zweitausendeins
“Die CIA und der 11.September: Internationaler Terror und die Rolle der Geheimsdientse” (The CIA and 9/11: international terror and the role of the secret services)
Andreas von Bülow, Piper Verlag
“Falten, Fäls-chungen und die unterdrückten Beweise des 11.9” (Facts, forgeries and censored evidence on 9/11)
Mathias Bröckers y Andreas Hauss, Zweitausendeins
“La sospecha: el complot que amenaza la sociedad actual” (Distrust: the plot that threatens modern society)
Isabel Pisano, Belacqua
“Operation 9/11: Angriff auf den Globos” (Operation 9/11: the global attack)
Gerhard Wisnewski, Droemer / Knaur
“11-S. Historia de una infamia: las mentiras de la ‘versión oficial" (9/11. The story of a vile act: the lies of the "official version")
Bruno Cardeñosa, Corona Borealis
“The war on freedom. How and why America was attacked, september 11, 2001”
Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, The Institute for Policy Research and Development
“Jefe Atta: el secreto de la Casa Blanca” (Chief Atta: the White House secret)
Pilar Urbano, Plaza & Janés
I was gonna jump in here ... then I wasn't ... then I was.
Okay, here goes.
I think the US side of this conversation isn't picking up on the issue that Bush hasn't done the "right thing" by the Halifax and Gander residents, from their perspective (which is really the one that counts). Especially, when he has made visible efforts with other groups. Try to go back to that time and remember how long these generous people provided shelter and food for the stranded passengers.
Unfortunately, this is a sensitive area of foreign policy--or just plain common courtesy--that has been sadly lacking in this administration. Reference the more recent snub of the legitimate leader of Spain. Bad form.
As for The Globe and Mail, y'all ought to read that once in a while. It provides a very different perspective from what you get in our myopic, US corporate controlled media (unbiased, ya, right, you'betcha!). I love getting my Globe and Mail in the mornings when I stay in Canada. It is a very refreshing change of world view.
Oh, well, then allow me to retort!Quote:
Originally posted here by rapier57 Unfortunately, this is a sensitive area of foreign policy--or just plain common courtesy--that has been sadly lacking in this administration. Reference the more recent snub of the legitimate leader of Spain. Bad form.
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Francoise Ducros was the former press secretary to Prime Minister Jean Chrétien who called President George W. Bush, a moron at an international gathering.
http://www.torontofreepress.com/2003/weinreb010603.htmQuote:
Jean Chrétien nor any of his cabinet lackeys upset over the comments that were made. Chrétien refused to fire Ducros and only accepted her resignation when she tendered it a second time and made it clear that she didn’t wish to retain her position.