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Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
HT:
I took a look at it..... Pain in the azz that the "try me" version is a 1.3G d/l for a DVD ISO.... :eek:
Now, it gives me an option to install direct from d/l.... Now I have this cute little laptop here with two partitions, one boots WinXP pro, (which I _don't_ want messed with), and a second partition with my previous foray into Linux, (Fedora Core 2), which I could happily replace. They boot off a boot loader, (Grub I think).
If I were to run that install would it recognize that I have that setup?
Would it give me the option of which partition to overwrite?
Would it replace the FC2 item in the grub loader itself or would I have to do something?
Would it still, even though it says it's doing stuff right, screw up my laptop?
Little gun-shy right now.... :o
Hey Hey,
The Try Me Versions are awful.. I wouldnt' recommend them to anyone.. I had the 9.2 Live KDE and it sucked ass to be honest... it had no features.. it wa sfine if you wanted a basic computer system up and running quickly but it was slower than every other bootable distro.. on a PII 350 w/ 256MB of RAM it slowed to a crawl... They're live distro's aren't something to be proud of...
I'd recommend going to a BitTorrent site somewhere and downloading the ISOs... There's nothing illegal about it so why not... Either the 1 Full DVD or the 5 CDs... The FTP install works if you want to do it that way... but I like having the CDs.. too many times I've had connections drop during installs..
As for your questions... It will recognize your setup and even set your Windows drive to mount as /windows/<drive letter>
You can definately select which partition.. since one is already (most likely) reiser/ext it'll ask to install that one..
It will generate the boot loader of what exists on your drives... (install a new one basically with SuSE and Windows)..
It will NOT screw up your laptop... The install is (if anything) even more user friendly than a Windows install... (if you have a bit of computer knowledge... which I know you do)... I'd jump into it.. it'll rock your world and it's a piece of cake.
Peace,
HT
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Originally posted here by RoadClosed
lol, Make a backup!!! I have a Dell lappy and so far I haven't had an issue with any distro for the last 12 mos. I - like - Gore will be buying this one. Been on Red Hat for a Year, time to change? If you have the resource I prefer another hard disk. It's a snap to pop in Linux or Windows disk with laptops.
//Edit Gore that article doesn't pin down a price for Enterprise. The PRO version is 160.
"You will have to buy the Professional edition of Suse 9.2, due in January for around $160, to get the full range of features, plus discs and manuals."
From SUSE / Novell :
SUSE LINUX Professional 9.2
SUSE® LINUX Professional 9.2 from Novell combines a fast, secure operating system and more than 1,000 popular open source applications. It is the first complete Linux* package to harness both the improved Linux kernel 2.6 and the recently enhanced KDE 3.3 and GNOME 2.6 user desktop environments.
more information
buy now
$89.95
160 more than likely is the Enterprise. It's almost always under 400.
http://www.novell.com/products/linux...l/pricing.html
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I noticed that article was from down under, maybe that was the estimated price there? Or just a bad estimation all together. I like 90 MUCH better. :)
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Well.... You *nixheads will be proud of me.....
I now have Nessus running for the first time in my life from a WEP encrypted wireless access point outside my firewall looking at my primary public server...... :D
I did the FTP install if SUSE 9.1, (I tried it at work first but the connection is frac T1 and used by 350 others.... So I aborted and took it home... Started the install, went out for dinner, came back and it was all done).
Like my first foray into *nix, (FC2), it is still far from Grannies OS, but with my previous experience it was a little easier. I had the same problem as I had with FC2 and the screen size which was fixed with a BIOS upgrade from A27 to A31, (somewhere in between a fix was put in just because of this linux issue). Then I had to get the Linksys wireless card up, (the broadcom built in card was immediately recognized and started). So I looked into ndiswrapper... Ahhh, one of those things you have to do a "Make" on.... Funny, make wasn't installed by default... To make a long story short, I think I found out what YaST is for.... :eek: I struggled for a good while with wpa-supplicant and came to the conclusion that the linksys driver doesn't like WPA under SUSE... It works fine in XP - *SHRUG* - the WAP is outside the firewall so WEP is good enough.
The problem I do see is that I connect to three WAPs and as far as I can see I'm going to have to reconfig wlan0 each time since it doesn't start automatically, (I have to modprobe ndiswrapper then route add default gateway 192.168.1.1 every time so I don't see that I could create wlan1, wlan 2 etc. and specify which in the modprobe command - any hints kids?
There's a couple of things I don't like... The touchpad is real squirrely under SUSE.. It jumps off target when I try to click things... The whole box has a tendency to hang a bit at times too so I close everything down back to the desktop and start again and it seems fine.
I do like that it automatically mounts my Windows partition, that's neat. And I really like the fact I can start running stuff like Nessus and Kismet, to name but a few.....
Now don't go thinking you have yourself a convert here...... I'm a Winhead all the way... SUSE is just a tool!!!! ;)
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Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
I'm a Winhead all the way... SUSE is just a tool!!!! ;)
A statement like that makes me wonder who the real "tool" is.
Anyway, drive North for a little bit and I'll install Professional for you. You'll like it.
Always remember, most of your hardware was built for Windows only, and Linux still finds it, so go easy.
I have 9.1 Professional and I think you'd like that with a custom installation.
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I thought professional was what I installed from the FTP setup????
How would I tell? (This stuff is easy in Win.... ;))
Anyway, I'm here now at the "satellite office" and it took about 90 seconds to reconfig for this network..... Is there a way to have mutliple WAPs set up and to have them autoconnect when they recognize them?
As for the "tool" comment.... If I came north I'd be using you as a tool.... and that's much more believable... ROFL
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Hey Hey,
You could drive slightly north and pickup gore, and then come another hour north and meet me.. I've got the 9.2 Pro Discs here... All the over the counter Tylenol with Codeine that gore can handle and enough beer to get us through 100 SuSE installs.
As for your problem with the Wireless (needing to add the default route and modprobe)
I would create a series of scripts for each wireless connection... (this is why a friend of mine does)... or you can choose to go into Wireless setup in Control Centre (but not in the yast modules)... In there you can define 4 wireless profiles to use.. I prefer the script since I'm anti-gui....
if I were you I'd
ifdown eth0
modprobe ndiswrapper
ifup wlan0
This way you won't have to set your default route... It will use wlan0.. I always disable my Wired NIC before going wireless..
you could do something like this
create /usr/local/bin/wifi.sh
Code:
wifi.sh
#!/bin/bash
#Simple WiFi Setup Script
if [ -z $1]
then
echo "Please Specify a Network"
exit
elif [ -n $1 ]
then
network = $1
fi
ifdown eth0
modprobe ndiswrapper
ifdown wlan0 #Not sure if the modprobe will bring it up or not... I have a bad memory
case $network in
"home")
iwconfig wlan0 essid "ChangeMe"
iwconfig wlan0 key "some random key"
;;
"work")
iwconfig wlan0 essid "ChangeMe2"
iwconfig wlan0 key "Some other random key"
;;
"other")
iwconfig wlan0 essid "ChangeMe3"
iwconfig wlan0 key "3rd random key"
*)
echo "Unrecognized option... please use home, work or other"
;;
esac
ifup wlan0
echo "Network Configured"
Then just chmod u+x /usr/local/bin/wifi.sh and wifi.sh (assuming it's in your path).
Now I wrote that out in here... and I don't have a linux box running with wireless ATM (to lazy to pull out the laptop) but I believe it should work.. I'm not a linux god so someone else can clean that up if they want.
Peace,
HT
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Well... Thanks for the script HT..... I dunno why but it just locked my box on full cpu/disk use and sat there for a few mins till I got bored and shut it down..... But have no fear, I took the appropriate part and created my own scripts to do what I wanted.... It works for me.....
I still wanna know how I can tell if I have the pro or the amatuer, (probably more appropriate for me ;)), version. I did the FTP install from the Pro page so I am assuming that I got the Pro version..... Any hints.....
And just to prove I'm using this and getting around it you will find my desktop snapshot attached.... You'd never guess it was mine.... I took the picture myself in the Bahamas 2 years ago..... I have lots of them but this one makes a really nice background..... :D
Now I have to work on installing progs from rpm's and then finding the damn things in this wierd file system.....
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Damn.... I'm good. I edited that, saved it as a JPG, saved it to somewhere I could find and uploaded it..... All in SUSE..... I'm probably not 1337 yet.... But I'll get there.... ;)
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Well... I'm thinking about installe Suse pro here on my main box... But I'm going to wait till after christmas, cuz I'm getting another hard drive, and will probably stop using my main 40 gig... I haven't really decided... Anything I need to know before I start? I have the Pro discs from when novell did the free thing...
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Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
Well... Thanks for the script HT..... I dunno why but it just locked my box on full cpu/disk use and sat there for a few mins till I got bored and shut it down..... But have no fear, I took the appropriate part and created my own scripts to do what I wanted.... It works for me.....
I still wanna know how I can tell if I have the pro or the amatuer, (probably more appropriate for me ;)), version. I did the FTP install from the Pro page so I am assuming that I got the Pro version..... Any hints.....
And just to prove I'm using this and getting around it you will find my desktop snapshot attached.... You'd never guess it was mine.... I took the picture myself in the Bahamas 2 years ago..... I have lots of them but this one makes a really nice background..... :D
Now I have to work on installing progs from rpm's and then finding the damn things in this wierd file system.....
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Damn.... I'm good. I edited that, saved it as a JPG, saved it to somewhere I could find and uploaded it..... All in SUSE..... I'm probably not 1337 yet.... But I'll get there.... ;)
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And a little child shall Grow.
So how is the file system weird? LOL this is somewhat entertaining seeing the Windows admin use something else for once. Tiger it bothers me that someone as old as you are has never used something UNIX based. Oh, you may have been a cheapo and not bought it, but see fi this works for you:
Open a Terminal, and type bb
Heh you'll love it.
