Cyber-warfare: prelude to an arms race?

The most powerful nuclear device ever detonated was not even 60megatons. The vast majority of the US nuclear arsonal is 0.1-0.25 megaton devices, any more than that offers too little return on investment.

...and what does all of this have to do with cyber-warfare? It is off topic and moot.

Next you go off on economic issues? What are you talking about?

Fortess America? 9/11? Are we involved in the same conversation?

Econmic powers?

How can you take such a straight forward topic like "one country develops a weapon systems that is basically focused against their allies, do you think they will respond in kind?" and run upside-down-leftwise-right with it?

Trade? Seriously... try to stay focused or perhaps start your own thread detailing your manifesto.

catch

edited to add:
And just FYI: The combined economies of EU countries are relatively equal to the U.S. economy -- $11.0 trillion purchasing power parity gross domestic product for both the EU and the United States. The EU population of 456 million, however, significantly exceeds the U.S. population of 293 million.

Same funds, more people = poorer.

Catch,

I do not believe that these weapons are country specific? I could be wrong there? so why should we worry about your thermonuclear powered vessels when we are allies? The same should be true of cyber warfare?

I say old chap..........a little quiz for you: who is fighting next to the USA in Iraq?

1. France
2. Germany
3. Israel
4. Guatemala
5. United Kingdom

I am looking at the bigger picture.................

Nihil... we appear to have had a misunderstanding.

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I do not believe that these weapons are country specific

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These are very nation specific. The target country is mapped and weak points are indexed with a real time database for the current, least costly manner of breaking the weak point.
Each nation has a map (still in progress mind you) until eventually the whole world outside the US is indexed. Normally this wouldn't be an issue as conventional weapon systems are nearly equally useful against all nations. This system however presents are very large threat (high effectiveness) to Europe, Australia, much of Asia... and very little threat (low effectiveness) against the US's current enemies list.

So why is the US developing it? As a "just in case" for the future, and my question is, will those just in cased nations respond in kind? Preparing a specific anti-US cyber-warfare procedure?

Would you be saying the same thing if the US had developed a biological weapon that specifically killed English people? A generic biological weapon is one thing, but I think such a focused weapon would have you asking questions. ;)

cheers,

catch

The problem is with the wording of the pole.

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Cyber-warfare: prelude to an arms race?

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“ Arms race “ or “ offensive cyber-warfare program ”?
Two different things and reacted to differently ( at least by the sane I would hope. )

Hi Catch,

Call me stupid, I happen to trust Americans...............ok the judgement may be out a bit? :D

Anyways, you know about my RISC system?

:D

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Originally posted here by IKnowNot
The problem is with the wording of the pole.
“ Arms race “ or “ offensive cyber-warfare program ”?
Two different things and reacted to differently ( at least by the sane I would hope. )

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Both, a continued effort on all sides to develop better and more advanced offensive and defensive cyber-warfare systems. ;)

cheers,

catch

Hey, Catch.....................don't worry about your guys coming after us.....................maybe I will take a vacation, and come looking for you with a .308 Win or a lite .50............... :p

Anyone want to join the "A TEAM" ?

:D

I'm not worried about that... I'm worried that as my home country continues to find new ways to burn bridges that I might find myself stuck here.

Anyone know of any open Information Security Officer roles within a financial services in Switzerland? ;)

cheers,

catch

Hey Catch................You can always come here and live on lobsters, crabs, cod , salmon.....and stuff like that :D I have plenty of room.........

And don't be so bloody paranoid! my mate George will not attack Europe without my written permission..........

Have a nice Easter..................that is a direct order!

:D :p

there's a big differance between having the ability to do something and actually doing it. if there's even the remotest chance of 'cyber warfare' i would like our country to be the best at it.

We don’t have "proof" of allot of things that happen but fortunately this isn’t in a court of law. i for one think that there is a pretty good chance that our "friends" in SE Asia, china, russia and other places are training for it. hell i wouldn't be at all surprised if the UK and others that are our allies are preparing for it...they'd be 'not very bright' if they didn't.

maybe a cyber arms race will do for internet security what the arms race during the cold war did for science and technology. forced or not competition bring advances.