How old are you?! 12?! :rolleyes: If we went there for the f****** oil I wouldn't be paying $30 a week on gas! Grow up!
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How old are you?! 12?! :rolleyes: If we went there for the f****** oil I wouldn't be paying $30 a week on gas! Grow up!
Being Canadian...we produce more oil then we use...and I tell ya...I spend way more the 30 dollars a week.
We pay more then the US for our oil....
Never will understand why Bush stirred the Sh$t over there anyway......Iand dont think thet hasnt had an influence on your oil prices
Its like kicking a sleeping dog :rolleyes:
MLF
Hi morganlefay,
The reason why we pay so much for gas/oil here, even though we produce enough gas/oil and natural gas to be more than self-sufficient and have a considerable surplus to boot, is because our government has for years supported trade in this area...
as stupid as it sounds we produce the raw materials and instead of refining all of it ourselves we ship it south to be refined...
we sell the raw product to the US at ridiculously low prices and then buy the finished product back from them at considerable more cost...
which forces us to get the remainder of our oil/gas from Venezuela...
the only good thing in all this is that we are not dependant on OPEC and the middle east for our supply...the mid-east could run out of oil tomorrow and it would barely affect us...it would affect cost as it is all tied into the market but not supply...
Eg ;)
Yeah you would, because:Quote:
Originally posted here by RogueSpy
How old are you?! 12?! :rolleyes: If we went there for the f****** oil I wouldn't be paying $30 a week on gas! Grow up!
1. Things haven't stabalized enough over there for the US to quietly take oil
and
2. Bush is doing it because he, cheney, and other people whom he is in good company with are making large $$$ off of it... Think about all the companies over there doing contracting work... How many are "former" associates of Bush, Cheney, cabinent members, special friends of bush, etc? Most. Think Haliburton, for one. The whole thing is about money, and part of that is oil. Also, the economy was begining to **** it's pants after 9/11, and bush knows enough about economics to know that war usually helps the economy. Too bad we weren't in need of tons of new equipment to be manufactured, or that might of happend. Had Bush passed economics with a B instead of a D-, he might know such things.
Damn fine point Val.
for the record I was going to choose the opium smoking whiskiholic - what better than a philosophical warmonger - :p
A quick comparison (kinda'):
Sorry to Bush fans - I just happen not to be one!Quote:
Adolf Hitler Versus George Bush
Adolf Hitler was the leading vote getter in his campaign for power. George Bush was the second leading vote getter in his drive for power.
George Bush was a coke head. Adolf Hitler was a coke head.
Adolf Hitler was a petty criminal. George Bush was AWOL and DUI.
George Bush made money the old fashion way, he got government subsidies. Adolf Hitler made his money being subsidized in jail.
Adolf Hitler's election was funded by the mega corporations. His main supporters were religious zealots and brainwashed followers. George Bush's election was funded by practically the same mega corporations. His main supporters are religious zealots and brainwashed followers.
George Bush manufactured a war to gain control of a region and its economic assets. Adolf Hitler manufactured a war to gain control of a region and its economic assets.
Adolf Hitler planned "a New World Order". George Bush plans "a New World Order".
George's henchmen are all ex-oil men buddies and Super Patriots. Adolf's henchmen were all ex-putsch buddies and Super Patriots.
Adolf turned neighbor against neighbor and friend against friend by using them to spy for the government and report all terrorist activities at home and in the occupied countries. The terrorists were those who opposed Nazi oppression, resistance fighters and political enemies of the Reich. George turned neighbor against neighbor and friend against friend by using them to spy for the government and report all suspected terrorist activities at home and in the occupied countries. These terrorists are people protecting their home lands, Americans standing up to the political oppression and former CIA buddies turned enemies of the State.
George has promised us security and freedom. He cannot achieve the former and will sacrifice the latter. Adolf promised security and freedom. He never achieved the former and never meant the latter. (PS. Security has never been achieved in all the history of mankind, even by the most repressive regimes, including the USSR and Communist China. Freedom was often the first sacrifice though.)
Adolf inherited a collapsed stock market, a nation in economic ruin and brought it back to prosperity. The cost was 30,000,000 lives. George inherited a overflowing stock market, a nation in prosperity and brought it to ruin. The cost, a few lives, a lot of suffering and untold billions in debt.
Mark Twain said " Patriotism is merely a religion, love of country, worship of country, devotion to the country's flag and honor and welfare....(In) America it is furnished cut and dried to the citizen by the politician and the newspaper. The newspaper and politician manufactured Patriot often gags in private over his dose; but he takes it, and keeps it on his stomach the best he can. Blessed are the meek.... He knows the maker would find out- the maker of his Patriotism- the windy and incoherent six-dollar sub-editor of his village newspaper-and would bray out in print and call him a Traitor.... Which is to say, nine-tenths of the Patriots in ... America turned Traitor to keep from being called Traitor. Isn't it true? You know it to be true. Isn't it curious.... The patriot did not know just how or when or where he got his opinions, neither did he care, so long as he was with what seemed the majority-which was the main thing, the safe thing, the comfortable thing."
Adolf Hitler was despised and hated throughout the whole world. George Bush is despised and hated throughtout the whole world.
Adolf Hitler was born a bastard. George Bush choses to be one.
The gas should cost MORE here in so everyone would stop driving Escalades, Rangerovers and Hummers. We have the technology to make hybrid cars so why don't we, instead of subsidising the damn oil industry, tax it into ****ing oblivion. But hey ... then the good ol' boys won't make any money.
And do you realize you are pretty much ****ed if you had a DWI and want to get a job as any kind of driver. This trust fund baby is driving the country. Bush is not a leader he is a religious fanatic who got elected on religious vote. Do you ppl realize that this guy actually said that he talks to god and god made him go to iraq. I saw this on television about 6 months ago. WTF?
Well the real truth is (if we think back to the '00 elections) that the reality is that he wasn't even the peoples choice.Quote:
....Bush is not a leader he is a religious fanatic who got elected on religious vote .....
Him and his party conspired, cheated and inviegled to get into office.
WTF is that? did u post that soley to bash Bush? we have had many Bush bashers before you came along...
Hey now... that was a good point :DQuote:
Originally posted by RogueSpy
How old are you?! 12?! If we went there for the f****** oil I wouldn't be paying $30 a week on gas! Grow up!
If you would be driving the same car you're driving now in let's say Belgium (just picking a random country here, of course), you would pay exactly three times as much on gas. Yes, 3 times as much... every time the media here reports a "devastatingly high gas price", I have to laugh... I pay around $30 a week on gas (and I don't even drive that much), and I smile every time the pump tells me that it's only going to be $30 when I expect $100... Now hush :D
Oh... and I drive a Japanese car, of course... a big one... and my wife drives a German one, of course... an extremely fast one... and they guzzle gas, too... but that's ok, cause I only pay 1/3 of what I would have paid in Belgium! Me happy, my wife happy (very important!), Japanese people happy, German people happy... what's the problem again?
Oh... I moved this to Cosmos, too... everybody happy? :D
NO! I'm not happy!
I'm not sure why yet, But I'll find a reason!