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Straight from the hip. You don't have a handle on the drinking. Anger and drinking make a volitile combination. Continue on as you are and you'll end up in jail.
You do not loose your man card if you get help.
cheers
edit: And as some of the previous posts indicate, get some real friends.
have u thought about joining AA?
Hi,
I know that I am not one to preach on the subject, but I suspect that you should be looking at anger management more than alcohol?
You see if you are angry, you can do a hell of a lot more damage sober than drunk?
Also, at 22 I do not think that you are old enough to be an alcoholic?.........but you might well be allergic?.........as has been suggested, look at what it is you are drinking...........I have certainly seen some strange reactions in people with different drinks of apparently the same strength....
And I certainly subscribe to the view that it is time to find friends rather than parasitic acquaintances.
:)
Well no offense Nihil, but the belief that one must be old(er) to be an alcoholic is rather naive and uninformed. Granted, young bucks like us may lack the experience to defer alcoholism from heavy drinking, and may confuse intoxicated behaviours as being a sign of alcoholism, but 22 is certainly not too young to be an alcoholic. I have also been worried about my drinking at times, and am only 4 years older than Dmorgan. Alcohol is addictive to toddlers as well. This is the whole purpose behind a minimum drinking age in most places.
That being said, Dmorgan, I think Nihil may be partially correct (many other people as well) in that you may not be alcoholic. It is possible that you have an anger management problem and are projecting the cause of it on to alcohol to avoid blaming yourself instead. Of course, I am not a shrink, so take it with a large grain of salt, but I believe it's worth considering at the very least.
Either way, you have a problem and need to look inside yourself (excuse the corny expression) to find the problem. You have already taking a courageous first step in admitting what you have. I believe Relyt had the best point in the thread though, in saying that seeking help for such a problem is not a sign of weakness. It deserves repeating.
You do not loose your man card if you get help.
I have seen therapists and psychiatrists for problems undisclosed myself. Nobody thought any less of me for it. More importantly, I do not think any less of myself for it. I am a better man because of it.
As a woman, and one whose ex-husband is a bona fide alcoholic, I have a different perspective. When I say bona fide alcoholic, I mean it...5 DUI's, 3 trips thru rehab, and still drinking. No contact with his family, nothing. His 9 yr old son hates him, and that's not my doing.
When you say you don't want to stop drinking...do you not want to stop drinking, or are you afraid you can't? You need to know whether you can or not.
22 is most definately not too young to be an alcoholic. In my ex's case, he was full-blown by the time he was 18. It has not gotten better, he's 36 now.
Anger is magnified by alcohol, as are all emotions, but particularly the negative ones. Anything that is bothering you is going to get worse. I learned a long time ago that "drowning my sorrows" was not the way to go, cause I just wound up wanting to drown myself instead.
That being said, I can't drink whiskey. I will fight with a wall if no one else will indulge me. Not a pretty sight, and I don't drink whiskey, ever, for any reason anymore.
In the opinion of a woman, not only do you not lose your man card for seeking help, you get an extra point on it for being man enough to realize there was a problem and doing something about it. You need to find out what the problem is. It could be alcohol, and as they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step. It could also be anger control. It could also be the fact that you have shitty stupid friends.
On the upside, there is no one on earth who makes me want to slap her cross-eyed more than my sister. However, there is no one I am closer to, and no one I go running to when I need support faster. As we've gotten older (31 and 28) we've had considerably fewer slapping each other cross-eyes moments, and a lot more friendship moments. Give it time. However, in some cases, the old adage you can pick your friends but not your family is true also, and yours may be one of those cases. What concerns me though is that you've picked friends just like the family you've been dealt, and neither of them seem to be really healthy for you. Friends don't piss each other off just for the fun of it.
Hey man ,I think just the fact that you admid that you are an alcoholic is a very big step because that is the first question that usually gets the "NO" reply.So I think consulting a the right people for rehabilitation could do a whole lot of good.
If you react bad to whiskey you can always drink one of my favorites, aged whiskies..... I'm quarter McCarthy/Scottish.
I'm a nice "drunk", but I have an extremely high tolerance for some odd reason. I'm what the doctors call a "compulsive drinker". Example: I can drink a 12pack of Killians in 4 hours! I don't get talkative, as a matter of fact, I like to sit back and observe people, it's weird (I’m like a mute). You prolly think I was high off some pure-indica-creeper. I can drink even more than that, if it's some cheapo **** like college snatch-lite (Natural Light). God, I'd killed all the other pledges while going through my hazing in college. I always did envy my friend who could get drunk off one beer........he never understood that.......actually we never understood each other on that issue.
I saw on Headline news some pills you can take for your issue, when you drink it makes you feel like ****.......it will put a world of hurt on you....some type of nuclear fission going off inside you, enough to stop the serious drunks from saucing........ I'm not a doctor, but if you're man enough to admit online that you're a potential whine-o, wife beater, welfare-crippling, American degenerate, slimy ****ing walrus-looking piece of ****. I'd say you're man enough to walk into a walk-in-clinic for a prescription of that.
It's a disease...sometimes genetic......if you had aids would you ignore it, and possibly hurt people around you?
Hi Imitation,
I don't know what they might be called in dmorgan's or your neck of the woods but those pills you're refering to are called by the name ' Anti-Abuse ' ...and apparently if you drink while taking them it can in the worst case senerio kill you...best case senerio make you violently ill...
they're usually prescribed as a last resort for hard case alcoholics who are ' serious ' about stopping for good.
Eg ;)
The drug is called Antabuse (trade name) the drug is Disulphiram (Disulfiram)
Source : http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-a02.htmlQuote:
Disulfiram produces a sensitivity to alcohol which results in a highly unpleasant reaction when the patient under treatment ingests even small amounts of alcohol. Disulfiram blocks the oxidation of alcohol at the acetaldehyde stage. During alcohol metabolism after disulfiram intake, the concentration of acetaldehyde occurring in the blood may be 5 to 10 times higher than that found during metabolism of the same amount of alcohol alone.
The source is a bit pharmacology heavy but basically the drug affects how your livery processes alcohol and instead of producing the usual spread of chemicals the reaction is pushed into creating more acetaldehyde.
Acetaldehyde is a toxin, in the doses produced while taking the drug it makes you feel like ****.
You will puke and have the worst hangover of your life without getting drunk. An alcoholic in-law of mine is on this right now, she can't use alcohol based perfumes because the drug will react with them and her skin swells and turns into a nasty rash.
The upside is you won't want to drink on the drug.
The downside is if you decide you want to drink you can stop taking the pills.
It would only be useful if you wanted to stop drinking, I doubt you are quite at that point yet.
Are we talking about the same exact pill? Did our FDA approve it? The Canadians might sell you some untested deadly stuff..... ;) <joke> Some people will kill themselves drinking anyway.... if doc says you have a few months or years more the way you're going, I guess you take the pills.
Some just all of the sudden stop and have a "moment of clarity", I read that somewhere! Maybe you're on your eve of "moment of clarity".