Hackivist:Left wing script kiddy

Hey Hey,

I think that IronGeeks hit the nail on the head.

My guess is that 20-30 years ago (I've got no way of knowing this for sure) but that there was a pretty clear cut line between the sides. Now there isn't.... The political spectrum is askew, people want to keep adding new axes to it to the point where it's more complex than most the structure of most molecules (What are we up to now anyways, like 15 possible axes... could you image a 15 dimentional object). So what's the new thought, come up with new models... So now you've got political models like the Eysenck Model, the Nolan Chart, the Political Compass and the Pournelle Chart. Others even print their own political models giving their own variation or twist on the subject.

I think someone needs to sit down and create a uniform model that covers all the -isms.

Peace,
HT

Posted by Nihil
In reality, terrorists are usually the extreme left the have not, jealous, wannabees.

Typically anarchists, but also embracing Trotskyists and some ultra left Marxists.

1. London, Sydney Street seige 1911.......................anarchists
2. England 1960's, "The Angry Brigade"....................anarchists
3. Europe 1960's - 1970's, Baader-Meinhoff Gang.....anarchists
4. Afghanistan, The Taliban........................................anarchists
5. Al Quaeda...............................................................anarchists


Ok a correction on this Al Quaeda is not an anarchist organization nor is the Talan. Yes they are extremists but they are by no means anarchists. You say that terrorists are the have nots but the Talaban ruled Afganastan. Anarchists don't want any government but the above mentioned orginizations want it there way or no way.


I would also like to say that if you look at the free jeremy site a little more you wil notice that the afidavit that establishees probable cause is nowhere to be seen. This means that they could have in theory used the USA PATRIOT act to sieze and detain him without any proof.

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because the US sticks their nose where it doesn't belong and causes problems...Trying to change things....

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That's the on going assumption. But in reality help me understand what we are trying to change? Do you even know when and why Al-Quida initiated their Holy Wars against the west?

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Ok a correction on this Al Quaeda is not an anarchist organization nor is the Talan.

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OH really? perhaps you would be so beneficient as to edify us ignorami...............post the manifestos of Al Qaeda and the Taliban?

:rolleyes: :D

Here is a brief snipet of what al qeada stands for.

Does al-Qaeda have a charter or manifesto?
In an al-Qaeda house in Afghanistan, New York Times reporters found a brief statement of the “Goals and Objectives of Jihad”:

Establishing the rule of God on earth
Attaining martyrdom in the cause of God
Purification of the ranks of Islam from the elements of depravity

originally from http://cfrterrorism.org/groups/alqaeda2.html

Sorry Gir,

I looked it up...and it wasn't easy to find...according to their official site Al Quaeda stands for :

' Too cowardly to attack anything remotely able to fight back '

Eg ;)

Oh, really?

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Establishing the rule of God on earth

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Attaining martyrdom in the cause of God

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Purification of the ranks of Islam from the elements of depravity

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And that is the will of Allah?

This just in!

The real definition of Al-Quaeda:

A
L oad of

Queer
Uglies
And
Extremely
Dumb
Anarchists!

an·ar·chist
Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-kist, -"när-
Function: noun
1 : one who rebels against any authority, established order, or ruling power
2 : one who believes in, advocates, or promotes anarchism or anarchy; especially : one who uses violent means to overthrow the established order
- anarchist or an·ar·chis·tic /"a-n&r-'kis-tik, -(")när-/ adjective

definition from http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...y&va=anarchist

Now for Al Qeada and the Talaban to be anarchists they would have to fit this description right well neither organization fits it.
The Talaban established control of afganastan trying to establish a ruling power.
Al Qeadawants to establish the rule of god on earth which to do so they would have to form some sort of rule over teh people to impose gods laws.

Now as for the last part of the definition if you only took that at face value then yes they would be considered anarchist but they are not just trying to overthrow the geverning power the are also trying to establish their own ruling body.




As for your post who said anything about the will of Allah. But yes they do believe that they are doing the will of Allah.

Gir,

The fact is that : any body whether it be a body of one or a body of thousands...that purposely TARGETS non-military objectives...putting the lives of INNOCENT PEOPLE/NON-COMBATANTS in extreme jeopardy or peril...

are COWARDS and TERRORISTS !

Maybe we should consider a page out of the Isreali handbook...imprison the families of these Terrorists and destroy their homes and possessions so they have nothing to go back to...maybe it will make them think twice about the consequences of their actions.

Eg ;)