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I agree with you 100% nihil...
And that is a very good question to ask him, but he did not say... I got this mobo with this processor and this fsb and this amount of ram, etc etc... He asked, well it seems to me anyway, the classic question... Nvidia vs ATI... That's just like the other classic question, who would win in a fight, boxer or wrestler?? :D...Quote:
I go back to my original question...............what is the rest of the system?
Hi The Duck
The reason I am coming from where I am is because I have done a lot of upgrading. Mostly I have to look at the system myself, as the owner would not be able to answer my questions.
On several occasions I have advised against a new video card in favour of a new monitor and/or more RAM. Obviously, if you are replacing onboard video with a dedicated card, it is a bit different as you are freeing up shared RAM at the same time :)
It is all a question of balancing components to get the best performance for money.
I agree with your comment on the "classic question" regarding major components, and would add that it is probably the wrong question. It should be "what is best for ME given these circumstances"
:D
I know the reason your are coming from where you are and have already agreed with you 100% :p. (did that make sense to anyone?? lol)Quote:
The reason I am coming from where I am is because I have done a lot of upgrading. Mostly I have to look at the system myself, as the owner would not be able to answer my questions.
On several occasions I have advised against a new video card in favour of a new monitor and/or more RAM. Obviously, if you are replacing onboard video with a dedicated card, it is a bit different as you are freeing up shared RAM at the same time
Amen :D. I couldn't have said it better myself.Quote:
It should be "what is best for ME given these circumstances"
Though in general I do favor nvidia over ATI :).
Well, to answer the question about the system, it is going to be new as well. The system will be a Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 with x850 XT Platinum, or an Alienware Aurora 5500 (Motherboard based on VIA K8T800 Pro chipset, with Athlon 3500+ HT.)
Would you not consider building the rest of the system yourself.
I've nothing against Dell or Alienware systems I just think they seem quite expensive.
You could get yourself a similarly specced system for a bit less money and because you are using 'off the shelf' parts the upgrade path is much easier.
Self build isn't economical on budget machines but there is usually a saving on performance kit.
US prices are different of course but you should price the parts to get a comparison.
As for GFX chips I've not used anything other than NVidia since the days of 3Dfx Voodoo 1. I've never had any stability problems or failures of gfx hardware.
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Im looking to buy a new video card and i cannot decide whether to buy from Nvidia or Radeon
You are looking to spend $4000 or so on a new computer NOT a video card! :DQuote:
Well, to answer the question about the system, it is going to be new as well. The system will be a Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 with x850 XT Platinum, or an Alienware Aurora 5500
This is the high end of the market, so there are no corners cut. It is highly competitive so the manufacturer's standard offering (the one they send out for reviews) is their carefully balanced product.
Both systems ship with the ATI Radeon card as standard. Or, at least, that is what the ones I have seen reviewed had in them, so that is what the manufacturers were happy to have their product judged by?
I hope that answers your question :)
When you are looking at buying a piece of hardware and you can't decide what to get. one thing you can do to help with your decision is think about the qualities your looking for, like price, amount of memory, performance.... If you list these out and place a weight on them depending on there importance to you, you can then score each of your options 1-10. When you finish scoring each of you item on the list multiply each score by the weight then add 'em up. It can make the decision a lot easier. The first thing to look at though is if there is a specific app. you want it for is it supported.
EX.________Card 1________Card 2
L1 W10_____5(50)________7(70)
L2 W5______9(45)________4(20)
L3 W20_____7(140)_______6(120)
Total_________235________210
Card 1 wins
L1 first item on your list.
W10 a weight of ten. multiply the score by 10.
You can do this many different ways but thats the general idea.
Ofcourse you could always throw a dart
Good luck
Well like I said in an earlier post, check your Mo Bo has support for the two graphics cards you mention.Quote:
Originally posted here by Maxipoo12345
Well, to answer the question about the system, it is going to be new as well. The system will be a Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 with x850 XT Platinum, or an Alienware Aurora 5500 (Motherboard based on VIA K8T800 Pro chipset, with Athlon 3500+ HT.)
If you had done this you would have found the VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset does not support PCI Express it supports AGP x8, so you would have to buy an AGP graphics card. Maybe you should look into it a little bit more and then post asking between a slection of graphic cardsthat you want instead of just Nvidia Vs ATI.
Personally I would listen to Nihil about the rest of your system, it sounds like you need a powerfull sytem for CAD work? But that doesnt always mean that you just go out and buy a top end graphics card and your all set. You need to have the resouces available and the hardware available to the Graphics card for it to work at its best. Its a bit like putting a jumbo jet engine into your car.. it dont mean your gonna fly!!
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When you are looking at buying a piece of hardware such as a video card you need to look at your needs and wants. If you list these out and place a weight on them depending on there importance to you, you can then score each of your options 1-10. When you finish scoring each of you item on the list multiply each score by the weight then add 'em up. It can make the decision a lot easier. The first thing to look at though is if there is a specific app. you want it for is it supported.
EX. Card 1 Card 2
L1 W10 5(50) 7(70)
L2 W5 9(45) 4(20)
L3 W20 7(140) 6(120)
Total 235 210
Card 1 wins
You can do this many different ways but thats the general idea.
Good luck
WTF????? :2pick:
yes, WTF indeed.