French Riots

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Is it Foxy or Nihil that has the 'France, irrelevant for 500 years sig' tis very true.

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Tah Raaah : actually it says 150, but they are working on it :D

this is the second attempt to post
the first was full of witticisms and satire
but is was also full of emoticons, and the site said no, and when I went back the cupboard was bare :eek: thats two .....

suffice to say that they had it coming, they have a terrible record for 'caring' for those they consider to be non-U [old time brit humour - if you listen real hard, you'll hear nihil busting a gut :D] three

to paraphrase it all

they will never learn, and what goes around comes around

and to put it into French : Le Roi Est Mort, Vive Le Roi!

What's Leroy got to do with it...and sorry he died.

all the media is reporting that it was poor emigrants that were rioting. they insist that the fact they are muslim and started each nights riots with calls of allah akbar is not meaningful. i dont want to be an islamaphobe, jesus loves you, allah wants you dead type of guy so i ask...what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.

Just put a wall around Cognac and Paris so my Cologne and Liquor of choice are OK, and torch the rest of the country. I can't stand france or the french language. And most of those people and their counterparts in Quebec can be HUGE *******s. They're dick heads, **** 'em.

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so i ask...what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.

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All I can and gonna say about that is : It aint over until the Fat "person" sings !

And you all know what that means. ;)

C.

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All I can and gonna say about that is : It aint over until the Fat "person" sings !

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Would that be the "buddha" :D rub his belly for luck.......

Foxy, shouldn't that read Le Roi Est Merde, Vive Le Roi!

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what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.

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This is about turf!!! pure and simple, the fanatics (mullahs/clerics) see an opening to entrench their religious ways in France (re Europe). These so called leaders whip the unenlightened into frenzies and let them loose.

The rest of Europe should pay close attention to this, as it will be coming to a location near you soon.

I have nothing against hard working law abiding (my Countries Laws) immigrants, these two nations US/Canada were created and built by immigrants, the problem with the latest generations of immigrants is their intolerance of other peoples cultures or laws.

It galled me back in the late 70's early 80's here in Canada, when we relented and allowed Sikhs to wear their turbans in the military (try putting a helmet on that)and blatantly allow them to carry their knives, sh*t I remember as a kid all the threats about getting caught with a knife on my person with a blade longer then 5", but If I were a Sikh, I could carry a G*dmn sword.

You can say what you want about Christiandom ( I am agnostic, and really have nothing nice to say about any religion, as all religions seriously F**ck people up)) but at least this religion is far more tolerant of other religions then say the Muslim followers, just look around, they are attacking christians in Indonesia (pop 200 Million, which a lot are Muslim).

I sometimes wonder, why we allow ourselves to be the subject of their derision and hate, when they are taking advantage of the very freedoms "our" forefathers allowed them, and not just pack them all on a plane and send them back to their so called paradises, I mean it must be better back in their old country, otherwise why are they always upset with the western people, just look, they can gather together in front of parliament/capitol hill and without fear of prosecution or intimidation spout off about the injustices the very hosts are doing to their people.

When those palestinians started to dance in public after 9/11 I lost any sympathy I may have had for those dispossed of their land.Everytime I see these people mug it up for the cameras by burning the flags, I wonder how they would feel, if every time a terrorist leader in the middle east was killed if maybe tens of thousands of US and Canadian citizens hit the streets and started dancing and yelling death to Allah and burning thier flags, how would they feel. But then again civilized people would not lower themselves to that level (oh to be uncivilised just for a moment!).

To be totatly honest I was farily impressed with the way the french police handled the riots. As long as the riots stayed restricted to surburban areas then they just limited the damages and protected the firemen and emergancy services. The rioters couldn't even complain of police brutality. There were a lot of complaints about the prison terms being handed out though. In the end the communitys were forced to get involved and reacte. Instead of sitting back and just bitching about the violence they had to get up and pull their kids in off the streets. I think the youngest person arrested in the riots was 10. What parent would let a ten year old out during riots?
Most of the crap about it being a islamic uprising was fabricated by the jihad sites on the internet. It was a bunch of crap. The riots were no different from the riots in the states or in Birmingham (badly spelt?).

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Would that be the "buddha" rub his belly for luck.......

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Rub hard ...real hard :D

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To be totatly honest I was farily impressed with the way the french police handled the riots. As long as the riots stayed restricted to surburban areas then they just limited the damages and protected the firemen and emergancy services. The rioters couldn't even complain of police brutality. There were a lot of complaints about the prison terms being handed out though. In the end the communitys were forced to get involved and reacte. Instead of sitting back and just bitching about the violence they had to get up and pull their kids in off the streets. I think the youngest person arrested in the riots was 10. What parent would let a ten year old out during riots?

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I'm not saying (don't know if you were pointing at me but nayway ;) )that the police did a bad job ...heck ..after the first week or two they were given' "carte blanche" (to keep it french) meaning that they could act more "agressive" and take more prisoners (sounds like dungeons and dragons).

They arrested over 1000 people by now I think ... 300 persons the first 2 nights alone ...the torching and damaging came to a minimum fast ...so they did a very good job ...all I meant was that they weren't given' the proper "tools & methods" to act on this threath in the beginning becuase the government was afraid of the "public" reaction .... right ...if those f**kers toast my car ..I don't care about political correctnes mr. President ...nooo sir :rolleyes:

Anyway ...had to say this...

C.

I've never had ANY tolerance for those who take to the streets to terrorise and destroy.
for the UK, we had the Toxteth [Liverpool] riots in the early 80's, and on the TV were these f****rs speaking in every accent bar scouse, saying that it was all the police's fault :eek:

I would have gunned 'em down, and to hell with the consequences.

Clean streets using the good old tried and tested methods that worked so well in China's Tiananmen Square, Peking. :o

we all want peace and quiet in our lives, we all want what is best, yet if our [western] governments attempted anything like that they would be history.

our greatest strength [democracy] is also our greatest weakness, as it allows those who bode us ill to have free access to the very heart of society, it may come that we have to forgo these 'freedoms' so that this problem can be eradicated once and for all......

but that will give those civil liberty leeches ANOTHER payday

[maybe we could spare some ammo to finish THEM off too ???]

Cemetric,
I wasn't pointing to any one I was just makeing a comment. Believe me the police were kept on a very tight reine all through the riots. They barely even deployed the riot police (CRS) and believe me you dont want to be in the area when those guys are let loose.

yeah those darn'd French Riot Police....you would have to hope they wanted to come back after this last mission to quell pretty bad rioters.Tahiti

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Early this month, the French government sent 300 riot police from mobile gendarme units to the Pacific island of Tahiti following a major upset in the May 23 French Polynesian territorial elections. In a reversal of 20 years of Gaullist political rule, President Gaston Flosse’s incumbent Tahoeraa Huiraatira Party (Popular Union, THP) lost its majority, winning only 28 seats in an expanded 57-seat assembly. The French government justified the police deployment on the grounds that it was necessary to maintain “law and order” and for the electoral process to proceed in a “serene” climate.

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Mind you it was 2004 ;) but those terrible Tahitians (all 10 of them) needed to be brought to heel, by the mighty French Gendarme. I don't think they could of gotten them out of the "Maginot line" fast enough to stop these rioters. :p

Gee and this was last year:

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The election exposed overwhelming popular resentment over the Flosse administration’s policies, which have seen a worsening economic crisis, declining living standards and widening social inequality. The Tahitian class structure reflects the worst features of colonial rule. An affluent ruling clique, subsidised by the French state, enjoys a privileged lifestyle. Highly paid French expatriate civil servants, for instance, earn 84 percent higher salaries than their counterparts in France and are required to pay no personal income tax. Meanwhile, an estimated 20,000 poor and unemployed Tahitians live in slums or bidonvilles on the outskirts of Pape’ete.

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does anyone else see the correlation.....

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Causes of the French Revolution include the following:

* Resentment of royal absolutism.
* Resentment of seigneurialism by peasants, wage-earners, and, to a lesser extent, the bourgeoisie
* The rise of enlightenment ideals.
* An unmanageable national debt, both caused by and exacerbating the burden of a grossly inequitable system of taxation.
* Bad economical situation, partly because of France's involvement and aid in the American Revolution.
* Food scarcity in the months immediately before the revolution.
* Resentment at noble privilege and dominance in public life by the ambitious professional classes.

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sound familiar.