Microsoft Anti-Spyware Removes Norton Anti-Virus

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Fooled me once, shame on me- fooled me at least 15 to 20 times- well I guess I should assume you are trying to fool me on any future attempts. (convicted of stealing competitors products, well known tendency of breaking competitors products by tweaking the operating system, well known tendency to slow competitors products by tweaking the operating system or using illegal API's and still certifying product, bundling, giving away products for free until the competition is dead then never innovating, "embracing and extending" java, j++, the halloween memoes, "collaborating" on products with a competitor and then bringing out their own version using knowledge they picked up during the collaboration, etc. etc. etc.).

They are not just another large capitalist company. They are something unique and they want to lock that in forever. They bought or drove out of business every legitimate business that competed with them either legally or illegally (Stak/doublespace comes to mind- there are others).

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What Microsoft wants is to kill all competitors by 'cutting off their oxygen supply'. BTW, every other IT company is seen as a competitor. This is ingrained in the corporate culture, and starts at the very top with Gates/Balmer. That is why no one trusts them

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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...tid=109&tid=95

Yeah, I'm paranoid. What about it?
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This should be a cautionary tale about deploying beta products in production environments.

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Except it has absolutely nothing to do with beta-ness. Just about every anti-malware app has issues with false positives on occasion -- that's why you normally review what it finds before blindly removing stuff.

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Originally posted here by @tt!tud3
Except it has absolutely nothing to do with beta-ness. Just about every anti-malware app has issues with false positives on occasion -- that's why you normally review what it finds before blindly removing stuff.

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But the average user doesn't review the results of a malware scan - after all, the results are malware because the program says so, right? I've heard that the average Microsoft admin isn't exactly a specialist either, so that's probably why the companies are complaining.

I agree with nihil though, because it is their fault for using a beta program in the first place - and even then not checking the results (for something like that) is just complacent. There are plently of stable malware scanners out there anyway...

Cheers,

-jk :)

It happens to everyone including SYMANTEC. :) Trend Micro is another big player with a recent screwup.

Hmm well i'm starting to think my choice on not using the beta has paid off then. ;)
anyhow it shouldn't be to long before it's all ironed out and the thing comes out of beta mode.
That's when the real fun starts huh.?. :D

Well thats the thing when the product is very popular. One screw up can get out of proportion. It is however normal for Anti-Spyware applications to conflict with AV products and the like. False Positives are common obstacles with AntiSpywares or AVs.

But on a more realistic note, no matter how perfect the software is, it will still be useless if the user is well.... technologically impared.

If only the user can read and understand the warning, he/she can choose to remove/keep the detected "malicious file".

The FP can be quickly repaired, but user incompetence... well lets just say it will take generations before it gets fixed lol.

I'm wondering if this program has an exclude option. We have some company software that kept showing up on AVG. All I had to do is put the software on the exclusion list. The biggest threat Nortons gives is uninstalling and eating up all your resources.

Wonder if that's why they released Windows Defender (Beta 2) so early?

A.J.

Getting into thread a bit late but one thing that must be said is that things are much better than they were. I remember norton borught out an antivirus update once that rebooted all the PDC and BDC in a windows NT4 domain. It interesting watching about a 100 DC dropping one after another while the guy in charge of security at the time was trying to find a place to hide :D .
I have always found that developers were the biggest problem when it came to secuirty issues. They always knew what they were doing much better than any domain admin. Afterall if you really knew what you were doing you would be programming.

lol, That might explain my Norton is always asking me to reinstall it. The problem is I don't have the installation CD (it was preinstalled on my computer).

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Heh heh heh, now if you are like me.....you would consider Norton to be Malware and not be surprised at all that it was picked up.

I really don't like Nortons or how hard it is to completely remove from a computer after it has been installed on it.

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Yup, I 100% agree with you on this.
I think microsoft shouldn't get into the antispyware business and leave it for the proper companies instead.