bye bye iPods..

Wow, a discussion about I-Pod that degraded into a flame war.


Good morning.


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Originally posted here by er0k
have banned your ass in a neg or two back in the day

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But you left, and now you are back, so get over it.

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Originally posted here by Arkimedes
I don't know, if some MP3 player firm could get bluetooth capabilities, then that would make a damn good product.

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Ya Ark a great product...............................if you live in L.A. you could download music and mpegs while you are stuck in traffic. It would be a flop if it happened.


Either way I think competition is always a plus, as the end result is more often than not a better product. I-Pod will out live us all in one form or another.

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Its cute little sleak design, fancy commericals and financial/trendy purportive backup are what made it popular. Its abilities are shitty, the damn thing has like 5 functions, its terrible in comparison to various pda's that cost approx. the same amount as the iPod, that have internet connections, keyboards, etc. The thing is dude, is marketing and design, fluctuation of trends/fads. You make my point exactly by saying "i can't live without my iPod." Whats different with that little piece of **** than any other mp3 player? nothing. they're all easy to use, apple just hit the jackpot with design of the device, marketing capabilities, and a little luck of the draw with it becoming a fashionable icon, just like kroc shoes, etc.

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I couldn't agree more; I've been saying that since it was released. IMO, the extreme proprietary nature of the item has been its only saving grace beyond the initial marketing blitz. If I even mention how superior other MP3 players are, I get looks of confusion by my friends...."But this is an Ipod......I get all of my music right here on Itunes..." (or for free with Rtunes :P)

Yahoo had the same kind of music service WAY in advance, but like other names, fell to anonymity versus Apple marketing. MS is the only company with enough clout and resources to topple the Ipod (specifically clout), and if MS plays their cards right, they can even make the Ipod seem passe and cliche....a dead fad. You'll need the new MS player to be the cool guy and be current with the times.

someone lock this thread before it just gets worse. iPods rule and so does HT. thats what this thread was about right?

I am aware that this thread started from a proprietary hardware and consumables angle, but there is a slant that does not seem to have been considered................like what about the RIAA/MPAA?

As I understand it, you get an Ipod, go to iTunes and download stuff to play............theoretically, you can only do this with an iPod.

Are the "labels" selling rights to just one supplier like iTunes, or are they available to alternative hardware/download sites.

If the music/film industry makes their product available to all contenders on the same terms then everything is OK as far as I see things. So, let us see if they are as "moral" as they try to make out?

High time to amend or even apply anti-trust legislation to these greedy bastards and put a stop to their little quasi monopolies.

All you bleeding heart democracy, privacy and all that, merchants should get on this:

You may sell to one, but you MUST sell to all the same.................

That is the only way you will get true freedom of choice and end the antics of Gates, Ballmer and Jobs................

The actual tunes should not be hardware dependent. If you make obtaining them legally, only achievable by purchasing particular hardware, then you are violating anti-trust IMO, and totally undermine your case against people who fileshare.

Unless, of course, Apple and MS hire the artistes to make exclusive material for them............which would be legitimate, of course



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Here's the future. First, A commodity mp3 player like Creative Zen.
(my daughter was given one for Christmas and calls it an "ipod". Second,
free music downloads. (Music is already free. The game is over and RIAA lost)
Third, let the chips fall where they may. Whoever makes a better device
will get more market share, but tying your device to a proprietary "service"
is a losing proposition, whether you be Apple, Microsoft, or whoever.
Today's kids are not going to pay for something that is already free.
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Originally posted here by er0k
someone lock this thread before it just gets worse. iPods rule and so does HT. thats what this thread was about right?

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erOK................................dude.

Your opinion is your opinion, if someone does not agree with it fine, if they annoy you just skip their post and continue to discuss your original thoughts.

Thus the "Discussion Board".

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Wouldn't have been a big deal if A: he wouldn't have negged the **** out of me with a lame ass message talking about how big and hard he is (its his ass you guys should be reaming about this, as everything was fine and it was just a simple discussion until he got his panties in a wad and started trying to be a hardass cause he didn't agree with me, and all the random insults in his post(s) which you guys choose to overlook (possibly for fear of redemption from the all -might mod)) and B: I agree, it was a good discussion and I'm not saying its not perfectly fine for people to not agree with me, but obviously i'm going to retaliate in some way shape or form when im being ****ed with by the hugest douche bag of all time (apparently).

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Originally posted here by er0k
Wouldn't have been a big deal if A: he wouldn't have negged the **** out of me with a lame ass message talking about how big and hard he is (its his ass you guys should be reaming about this, as everything was fine and it was just a simple discussion until he got his panties in a wad and started trying to be a hardass cause he didn't agree with me, and all the random insults in his post(s) which you guys choose to overlook (possibly for fear of redemption from the all -might mod)) and B: I agree, it was a good discussion and I'm not saying its not perfectly fine for people to not agree with me, but obviously i'm going to retaliate in some way shape or form when im being ****ed with by the hugest douche bag of all time (apparently).

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I have one thing to say about this. **** ANTIPOINTS! And bitching about stupid AP's has been pretty Ghey since they were introduced.

Move on dude, I think your original post about I-Pods was valid, now the thread is retarded.

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im not bitching about antipoints, i couldn't care less. I'm bitching about the message.

yeah i know the threads retarded thats why i asked it to be locked, but i do appreciate you guys trying to revive it.

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Originally posted here by HTRegz
I was jumping on posts in general.... in this case primarily Arkimedes who seems to be pulling stuff out of his ass...
HT

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But can he pull free MP3 players out of it? Damn send me your next **** please.


I think it is a moot point, as I mentioned before innovation is the key to success, as with any product/service it will improve with competition. A simple example of this in recent memory is Ford Motors a long time powerhouse of automobile manufacturing is literally being forced to redesign their auto's to survive the current market. They may have invented it, but they are falling behind as of late. So be it.

Sink or swim, competition ultimately benefites the consumer.


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