Was it worth it ?

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I semi-agree, I mean.. how do you call this aggressive "offense" against Iraq us defending ourselves? Theres a huge difference between defending yourself and attacking suspect countries. Bah, my argument still is who the hell are we to decide if another nation needs a new leader or government? Do we look at every countries leaders/elections and say, "Well, if we don't like who wins or who is in office, perhaps we should put one of our own in there instead or someone we can control." because seriously we might aswell. [/B]

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look into the bannana republics of the 70's or 80's, or look at hussains iraq, or look at pinchet, or look at south vietnam....that is basicly exactly how the US has operated for years.

bballad you can take your argument back a lot further than that!............ it is not a US thing or even recent, the Roman Empire had puppet states as well ;)

Just one of my pet peves. sure right now what the us is doing isn't very good...we are not on the side of angles....but lets keep some historical perspective. THis may be the worst prsident post Harding, but it has been worse. Sure the us is doing very bad things right now...but we have done worse in recent memory.

Since it's week end again, atleast this was worth it

Become a speech writer for bush

This war IS about defending our nation.


Iraq DID harbor terrorists, and this President has the balls to take care of the situation, unlike our other President who sat on his ass all day.

THis was not about we don't like saddam and the way hes running Iraq so we're gonna take over. This is about our National Security and keeping this country safe.

cheyenne1212
In the words of your own goverement.
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Last Updated: Saturday, 9 September 2006, 00:20 GMT 01:20 UK

Saddam 'had no link to al-Qaeda'

There is no evidence of formal links between Iraqi ex-leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda leaders prior to the 2003 war, a US Senate report says.
The finding is contained in a 2005 CIA report released by the Senate's Intelligence Committee on Friday.
US President George W Bush has said that the presence of late al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq before the war was evidence of a link.

Opposition Democrats are accusing the White House of deliberate deception.

They say the revelation undermines the basis on which the US went to war in Iraq.
The BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says that the US president has again and again tried to connect the war, which most Americans think was a mistake, with the so-called war on terror, which has the support of the nation.
The report comes as Mr Bush makes a series of speeches on the "war on terror" to coincide with the fifth anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

Requests rejected
The report is the second part of the committee's analysis of pre-war intelligence. The first dealt with CIA failings in its assessment of Iraq's weapons programme.
It added that the government "did not have a relationship, harbour or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates".

It said that Iraq and al-Qaeda were ideologically poles apart.
"Saddam Hussein was distrustful of al-Qaeda and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al-Qaeda to provide material or operational support," it said.
The Senate report added that the Iraqi regime had repeatedly rejected al-Qaeda requests for meetings.
It also deals with the role played by inaccurate information supplied by Iraqi opposition groups in the run-up to the war.

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Here is a second link to another article if you are willing to read it BBC analyse

How many terrorists or criminals as seen by their own people has the US harbored over the years?

The shah of Iran, Ferdinand Marcos come to mind. Did the Phillipines or Iran invade us? Besides when did the US get elected world cop?

Are we going to set up a police state wherever there are terrorists, we never got involved with the IRA, the Basque separists, the red brigade or the Bieder Mienhof gangs. We didn't get involved when Israeli terrorists were trying to drive the UK out of palestine either. You must only be concerned about terrorists who falsely claim to represent Islam.

This president led this country into a war that was ill advised and not publicly supported. His legacy will be one of failure. Instead of binding this country after 9/11 he further divided us. His approval rating for 9/11 and Afghanistan were very high. How much is Haliburton and Vice President Cheney making off of this war? For such a noble effort why aren't any of the Bush or Cheney clans offspring involved, I know to quote Cheney on serving in Viet Nam "I had other priorities" . We are being led by a chickenhawk and a draft dodger. Why the conservatives embraced this pair over Dole, Kemp or McCain I'll never know.

Sorry for the rant, one of the last posts pushed me out of my normal lurk mode

I sign this as one who served

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we never got involved with the IRA

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Being of the Irish persuasion, I will have to disagree with that one, if you read up on any of the Kennedy's or Boston/New York politics alone, you will find that a lot of disenfranchised Irish living over here, (Toronto as well) did support the IRA through gun running and monetary as well as drugs.

Also towards the end Clinton did get involved, so did Reagan and our twit Mulroney, to help with the ceasefire and eventually disarmament (still in progress).

As to the rest of your post, I have to agree... ;)

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Originally posted here by fourdc
Besides when did the US get elected world cop?

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Almost 20 years ago after the total collapse of the Soviet Union. Even more so after the UN didn't mind the idea of being spinless, ineffective, hypocritical, complacent, and delegated nearly all responsibility and enforcement to the USA.

Now lets all be fair to cheyenne1212, iraq did have some terrorists camps when hussain was in charge..whats that they where all in northern iraq under the protection of our "allies" the kurds.... you don't say, well damm i guess one more time some one on the right isn't