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What I have heard is that people aren't willing to pay top dollar until they know it's worth seeing or hearing. I know in the music industry that has been a long held thing since a lot of album releases have maybe one or two songs that are ok. But I've also heard of this for games and movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
Yes, the "few good tracks" argument certainly goes back to the days of vinyl :shocked:
What I have heard about pirate movies (in the UK) is that the quality can be very variable and frequently downright lousy. So you may end up getting ripped off.
I haven't heard people mention games, but I think that the gaming fraternity is much more closely knit so good or bad news travels pretty fast.
games.........
thats another story altogether.
but its a good point. all there is in the news is music or the movie (Hollywood in particular) are getting affected by the pirated market. what about the gaming industry. it has to affect them too.
there are more torrents about the games that are released recently than the movies in the cinemas.
arnt the developers affected / worried about this? they have to be, as they get paid for the number of cds/dvds sold in the market.
i see in the reviews of the games about the number of copies "sold" into the market. therefore if there are links to download them for free, it does not count as the game being "sold".
so why is the gaming industry not making so much of a racket about it as the music or the movies industy.
There are lots of reasons for piracy. In the original described situation I would suspect that it begins with a government that has no interest in lining the coffers of any American company. Other than trying to soak us with their products they are not exactly a friendly government to the US or most Western countries. The locals probably don't really know and don't really care.
Why I purchase Pirated Movies. (I only do this when spending extended time in Asia or Africa)
Long and short.
China, I'm not sure how to purchase legit copies. I don't know if it's the US that wont export or China that wont import the legal copies.
Last time in Harare for a few months, drove down to South Africa to pick up a few cases of wine. Stopped at a store and bought a legit DVD aprox $15 USD When back in Harare, insert DVD which notifies me that I can only play the thing 15 times, thanks for supporting non piracy blah blah blah.
Went downtown Harare and purchased same movie aprox $0.02 took the thing home and played perfect. I still have that dvd.
Perhaps we should lobby congress to make the US automakers (you know the ones loosing their asses in the global market) to install bullet proof windows and anti theft devices to prevent car jacking and theft. No worries about the cost, just pass it on to the customer. If you have any left.
In the past I pirated from VHS rentals.
Disney had a marketing plan that created gaps in availablity in movies. They would release movies in 7 year cycles to keep the demand up. So you could rent the movie until the rentals wore out, got broke or otherwise dried up but couldn't actually buy the movie. If you had kids in between the cycles, you were forced to rent movies over and over because Disney wouldn't sell you the movie. When the movie eventually became available and if the kids were still interested, we bought the movie.
I've also pirated software. I use to copy software that some giant of a company bought the license to just to kill the product. They had no interest in developing or maintaining just preventing it from competeing with their product. If they sold the product, I wouldn't copy it. I wasn't interested in buying their inferior product.
Legally these aren't valid reasons and two ethical "wrongs" don't make a right.
Hi dddc,
That is an interesting one because it almost takes you into the realms of "abandonware". I have no idea as to the legal implications over here, as there is clearly no case of material loss, given that they are not selling the product.Quote:
I use to copy software that some giant of a company bought the license to just to kill the product. They had no interest in developing or maintaining just preventing it from competeing with their product.
They cannot claim that their product is an alternative because it must have been materially different to avoid them getting sued for theft of IP.
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Originally Posted by dinowuff
found something just for you
http://www.mypicshare.com/dm93gbibpic.html
we should reconsider our respect for the pirates
Nice one baggi:
And as to abandonware; I still have windows on floppy and I know that I have all DOS versions through 6point whatever.
Now since you can't even download windows 95 from MSDN, (Every other OS is there - even DOS 3) If I gave someone a copy of my windows 95 cd, am I breaking the law? Assume there is a small demand for that software but not enough for M$ to recommision it.
That is an interesting question dinowuff,
MS don't sell it and don't support it, so they aren't losing out, and the only reason you would want it would be for education, research or historical purposes? I guess the same would go for NT 4.0 SP6a.
If you really wanted to use it it would be for old games or some weird legacy software. Now, I have a PI/133 and a PI/150, both of which will run Windows 98SE quite happily, and that would really be your OS of choice in those circumstances I would have thought?
I only have two boxes running Windows 95 950B build 1212. One is a Toshiba T2130CS laptop 486/75 and the other is a Gateway 2000 Cyrix 386 probably 12.5. Naturally that runs at a rather leisurely pace so I think that I will replace it with Windows 3.11 for workgroups :D.
I think that MS take a pretty reasonable attitude regarding their very old stuff, as it would only be used in rare and special circumstances.
I run DOS 3.3 on an IBM PC XT............ twin 5.25" floppies and a 10 Megabyte HDD...............real "greenscreen" stuff :cool:
I don't know about your laws, but over here I believe that if you supplied a copy of the software to someone who had a licenced copy but had lost or damaged their media, then it would be legal.