For all you hackers out there...

I Always say. Some things should remain unsaid. For all you "I broke into my bank", "I sent them a letter." People out there. It is really best not to try too hard to impress others. Personally I think Cracking a Bank, is quite silly, simple or not. And then send them a letter. Thats just plain foolish. Why not just send a screenshot of your "Brute Force", crap. And a Polaroid of yourself doing it. Makes me wonder how much bullshit people post here. On the other hand My "Hats" off to all the good posts, and there are several good ones. Not like this one. lol

Uber in a nutshell, is similar to "Ultimate" I would surmise that the true "Uber" Hackers/Crackers, remain unknown. Or have become IRCops, hehehe

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i wear no hat.. im bald...

hey terr,
did you know that 73.6 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot

I downloaded this file called "Matrix" from an ftp recently..
(On my windows ME box)

the file that i downloaded is 2,285,222bytes

It installed a screen saver in a new dir under my windows dir
everything added all together came out to about 600kb (there were 5 files. I am including the matrix.scr file in the windows dir.

Now.. Looking at this..

2,285,222bytes
amazingly shrunk when installed to about 600kb...

hmm..

Do i smell....

Trojan?

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<Look> You suck. EVILSEED

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That's original.

Run along now kid...before mommy and daddy catch you on their 'puter.


:kissass:

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Originally posted by evilseed
It installed a screen saver in a new dir under my windows dir
everything added all together came out to about 600kb (there were 5 files. I am including the matrix.scr file in the windows dir.

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It is easy to bind a .scr with a trojan, never trust a .scr that is mt advice.

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Originally posted by seatac


That's original.

Run along now kid...before mommy and daddy catch you on their 'puter.


:kissass:

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heh.. you forgot the :fu: That makes it extra special..


Hey man.. U gotta realize.. I am just messin with ya just the same as everyone else.. You are not a unique and beautiful snowflake.. ;)

N e ways.. im gunna run away from the forensic specialist now.

cuz he might do bad things.

:D

i don't know what type of hacker i am

i just know that the people that know me and saw what i can do
know what iam and its that what really matters

don't matters what you think but what the other think about you

OK, first off, let me say that i can't hack worth crap. I have a pretty good grasp on x86 assembly, but a rather tenative one on c/c++. Secondly, i don't think any true hacker would classify themselves in anyway. The whole thing about the 'hats' was just created for some author to defend his book on hacking.

I'm white hat, most of the time... I'm also not sure if I'm quite a hacker yet, but I try

I am the kind of "hacker" that has to go and clean up after script kiddies.And one who loathes wannabe dipshits such as yourself.

Who ME?

zlito's clear hat term is prolly the best definition of all hackers and crackers. to be elite you must learn to use anything and everything to your advantage. the most basic and overlooked skill to learn is social engineering for a computers biggest security threat is the person sitting in front of it. never stop readin. never stop learning. and never trust anyone. i really dont see anythin wrong wit usin progs as long as you take the time to learn to use it. all too often some skript kiddie dl's a brute forcer and its straight to the boards wit posts like tell me how to use this or similar. i even saw one post from this lamer saying "i know how to crack but i need to know exactly how to crack a yahoo e mail" then when asked the person couldnt even remember the name of the prog!! (as if it wasnt sittin right on his desktop lol) Personally when i want to play around i enjoy breakin out my copy of MB httpbf and writing new definition files.but it is even more fun if you code your own progs by far.

I'm not into "hacking" too much. I just want to understand the technology behind it.

Well, I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm responding to the initial post (not sure where the thread might have wondered since then... probably gorilla pr0n or something of that nature). I'm white hat. My definition of white hat, which is quite possibly different from yours. I orient myself against script-kiddies, black hats, and three year olds armed with Sub7 (script-kiddies). But I'm not gonna say that I'm elite. I'm decent with computers and security, but my philosophy is that I'll never be as good as I could be, or want to be. But I will always keep moving in that direction. If you care to help, let me know, and I'll take you up on that offer. If you want help, likewise, let me know, and I'll do what I can for you. Maybe I should be known as the "humble white hat" brand of hackers.

--PhirePhreak

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Originally posted by PhirePhreak
Well, I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm responding to the initial post (not sure where the thread might have wondered since then... probably gorilla pr0n or something of that nature). I'm white hat. My definition of white hat, which is quite possibly different from yours. I orient myself against script-kiddies, black hats, and three year olds armed with Sub7 (script-kiddies). But I'm not gonna say that I'm elite. I'm decent with computers and security, but my philosophy is that I'll never be as good as I could be, or want to be. But I will always keep moving in that direction. If you care to help, let me know, and I'll take you up on that offer. If you want help, likewise, let me know, and I'll do what I can for you. Maybe I should be known as the "humble white hat" brand of hackers.

--PhirePhreak

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I think this is the attitude to have.

...does a white poncho count?

I dont know enough yet to classify myself as anything but a little more than a well informed user. Yeah, I have a good grasp on linux and networking,etc. I dont know any programming languages to the point where I can sit down and boff out a trojan off the top of my dome. I would like to be at that point, but its just not gonna happen within the next 2 years or so. I know just enough code to be a hazard. My cap would probably be the dunce cap. :)

just learning about security

well i would say im one of da good guys....
and i also wish to learn more and more..

as i have ethics on my right..
i have skills on my left...

(not to mention i can type two keyboards at thesame time..)

i dunno.. i juz learn and use what i learnt for the good of all...

make everybody safe and protected from people who abuse their skills and knowledge..

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I am the kind of "hacker" that has to go and clean up after script kiddies.And one who loathes wannabe dipshits such as yourself.

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hmm.. dis guy's got some attitude problem.. hahahha :rolleyes:

I am not a hacker, cos I cannot hack. But, hopefully I will be able to understand how hackers hack cos I'm just trying to learn about security and networking and stuff like that.

Greg

I am a hacker in the fact that i love to experiment I am not a cracker i dont crack networks not that i judge those who do .



EviL

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hmm.. dis guy's got some attitude problem.. hahahha [/quote]

No, I know exactly how he feels. If you've ever been in a situation where you've had to defend against ongoing attacks by script kiddiots, hopefully being successful, and then having to go in and clean up after them, you're not going to have a very good outlook on them, ever. I know I don't. While I don't condemn people that might have slight problems (aka they were told to learn a certain way that's similar to script kiddie efforts), I will blatantly "cuss out" anyone who wants to just hack hotmail or DDOS someone just because, etc etc. Script kiddies having 10 minutes of time on their hands cause sometimes hours of cleanup. That's no fun and I know exactly where he's coming from. And from your response, you've never really had to work against script kiddies, or you yourself might've been one and came over to "the right side". Who knows...

as for me, i guess i could consider myself a hacker in the sense that a hacker is one who has this desire to learn and explore. i love to learn about computers. as for exploring, i mostly play around trying to see what i can do with my own system. you could also say that i am more of a white hat , though if i get mad, i just might strike back! but for now, i'm still learning and i've still got a lot of stuff to learn to start doing more advanced hacking. you can also call me a newbie, but i'm proud of it! besides, almost all of us are newbies because we are always learning new things!:)