I sure get alot of red antipoints..
heh.. I even got one for this post.. (Predicting is a beautiful thing)
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I sure get alot of red antipoints..
heh.. I even got one for this post.. (Predicting is a beautiful thing)
Damn that conversation between evilseed and hehbris was scary!! Hehbris has serious issues.
I wasn't here in the Seb-G days, who's worse?
Ethics are when an ISP trys to throw you in Jail when you tell them they have a security problem!
Franklin Werren
http://www.bagpipes.net
No kidding.Quote:
Originally posted by Alcatraz
Damn that conversation between evilseed and hehbris was scary!! Hehbris has serious issues.
I wasn't here in the Seb-G days, who's worse?
Great Post. As a student in IT I am relieved to see someone has the knowledge to pass the ethics portion on to us newbies!
Ennis
As another silently learning newbie...it was good to see some sort of 'insider views' of the ethics of 'security'.
Whether the points you raise are valid to all perceptions, it is still nescessary to raise them, even if it is to provoke Discussion that is creative.
It is not whether a 'bill of ethics' is accepted by all, but that a unified view that can be presented to the great Opiate of the masses, aka The Informed media, that will prevent the hysteria generated from the defacements and attacks of a few script kiddies.
Thanks for the thoughtful ponderings.
Thanks guys for the kind words! ;)
My congradulations and thanks go to EvilSeed and Hebris for the laughs. Yet in the end EvilSeed seems to be in the lead 2-1. Many Positive Antipoints to you both though. And Ennis, what is this talk of leaving. I know I'm not that good of a friend, but (I must be a newbie/neophyte according to...:P) I look up to you highly and would regret never learning from you. Although I can't honestly say that because I have. Your Ethics are pretty fascinating, with a couple of exceptions here and there of course. But nothing that would stop the Scripty (a.k.a. lamer) from benifiting (i.e. - anology: The Bible, hehehe). I love reading your posts, it'll be a sad day when you leave. I'm not sure what happens to 'retired' Senior Members. We'll have to talk to JP about that. Maybe you get a free (lousy) T-Shirt mailed to you or something, who knows? But hey, good luck where ever youg going to next.
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Can't we all just get along?
Get a long? Do you know how much longs cost??
lol...
Sorry - I'm in a semi-sarcastic-semi-humerous mood at the moment... Yeah I agreee everyone shoudl try to get on with each other, it makes the world a better place (although it's gonna take a lot for this planet to become a better place!)
hmmm.. nice post there d00d.. very educational....
by the way.. a lil word to the people every where...
Being a hacker doesnt mean you know ALL coz nobody can know it ALL.. technology changes everyday and basically one of the main goes of a hacker is to keep up with the changes... and learn as much as they can...
Coz i always get the shits when someone asks me something and they get pissed off at me or get disapponted at me coz i dont know the answer.. i mean like.. i can answer MOST of your questions but not ALL...
Well Ennis, I agree with most others around here. It was pretty well written and useful for the newbies.
By the by, just because someone doesn't have a website doesn't mean they're programming inept or anything, it probably means (in the case of programmers) that they're just too busy to do maintain it.
PS: not all Canadians are jackasses y'know. We've got the same varying degree of people that the rest of the world has.
Great posts hehbris.
You shuld read The Hacker Ethic and the Spirit of the InformationQuote:
Originally posted by Alcatraz
I like it, I've always thought reading about hacking ethics was fun.
Age by Pekka Himanen, great book, one of my favorites. :)
heh.. Ya.. I win..
hehehe
And Ennis that was a good post.
lechoQuote:
Originally posted here by hehbris
1) posting messages on a forum is not considered stalking in this jurisdiction
2) irish is not a race, it is a nationality
xn: This thread is five years dead. Leave it dead. Unless you have something useful to contribute to them, leave threads with the date flashing on the last post alone. I won't neg you, but others might for this. Please take a look at the stickies in the newbie forum here.
And Welcome to AO. Sorry for the negative start, we are all friendly really...honest.
No we're not... You lie like a cheap Japanese watch... We're vicious... ;)Quote:
we are all friendly really...honest.
Actually, Tiger and the rest are pretty much OK...............but me, now I AM viscious,
I even have IRS personal phone numbers :eek:
Be afraid,..................be very afraid
;)
OH! and welcome to AO :D