who hates the new fascist mangament?

:thumbsup: Neg.

We can agree to disagree when it comes to politics. And I let StreetRunner know that just because a particular post or thread offends me doesn't mean that I want some knight-in-newbie-armor running in to save the day. I, for one, know whow to close a web browser if I see something I don't like... I know moderators are human, I just know humans can do better than they do. It's no excuse to be human, it's a responsibility.

Anyway, my rant is over. I hope some of the moderators can learn from this and be a little bit more wise. Doesn't sound like it, though.


P.S.

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality -- J. W. Aldridge>


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this is the first ive heard on the new management... am i jsut oblivious?

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I was the Moderator who deleted the thread and I wasn't being "selective" when I deleted it. If my action seemed selective it is only because I obviously can't read all the posts. I deleted that particular thread when I came across it because of its offensive anti-German content and I would have done the same if it were anti-American, anti-French or Anti-Fill-In-The-Nationality.

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Thank god. You saved me just in time. I was just about to run out and start beating Germans down in the street. Had you not acted so swiftly and decisively, many krauts would surely have been beaten purple by now. ;)

Moderators are supposed to filter obscene and annoying content like adds and make sure posts are posted to the right place and in line with the rules of the forum. Do your job. The post was clearly a joke. It said that in the first line. Just because you have no sense of humour shouldn't mean we all have to suffer. Anti-online is a democracy...I think. ;)

cheerocricy smirc *tisk tisk*

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Originally posted here by moby_duck
i'm with you KorpDeath, but i'm going one step further because i don't have as much invested here. i'm boycotting this site. feel free to ban me if you like.

adios.

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Boycotting this site? What a total idiot, LOL. Like your "boycotting" of this site is going to affect it at all.. Just leave and don't come back.

i notice the old moderators were selected because they were old timers and people seemed to look up to them and respect them .... it doesnt seem to be the case anymore judging by the ap's some of them have

i agree with korpdeath this place is nothing without its members, its not the admin or owners who make this site what it is or as good as it is its the members

the members are the ones who respond and answer to the others, we help each other out and do pretty much everything without anything to do with the admin or owners

This is the second time I've viewed this thread. The first viewing ended on Page 2 with MsMittens posting the link to the "German History" breakdown from what looks like an on-line war games board.

I'm just curious how many of you actually began reading the replies that were written on that site? You quickly get a feel for the anger that is building from post to post. I realize this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I urge you to take some time and see what is being said from other people on other sites with other interests.

The internet, to me, is a tool which allowed people from around the world to come together and share thoughts and ideas. It is now also showing me how quickly we are falling apart.


Don't want to be the spoiler, just one person's observation.

"the internet is a communications tool used the world over where people can come together and bitch about movies and share pornagraphy with each other" jay and silent bob say it best sory firestartes post reminded me of that ;)
rioter

ok firestarter5 i went and read the posts that followed the "german history facts" and it became obvious very quickly that they were not of the quality that you would find here on AO. this is not your average site and by deleting it our moderator said that he thought we were too immature to handle a topic like this with out making him look bad. this is not a gaming site. weve got some very sharp minds here.

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Boycotting this site? What a total idiot, LOL. Like your "boycotting" of this site is going to affect it at all.. Just leave and don't come back.

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LOL...Go get him, tiger....


Seriously though, it's a shame that some members are starting to feel like that. Moby may only have been new here (and had some strange political beliefs... ;) ) but he came across as rather intelligent. It's these kind of members that the site benefits from.....


JP- To be honest, I hardly knew you at all. We never chatted, we never posted in the same threads, we had NOTHING to do with each other.....but, I miss you already! :(

ok, im not down with slandering people, or wutever supposidly went down with ur german history post. Although it was probablly funny. However, the new fascist regime that has taken over this forum is ridiculous. This web page has changed alot since its og appearance back in the day when it was about hacking and cracking, although i use those terms loosely since tose are terms the media has created. However this forum seems like its being run by a bunch of script kiddies, and uptight a$$'s now.


i make a refrence to this thread : http://www.antionline.com/showthread...41#post600741, it shows my opinions greatly

OK, I apologize. I should not have deleted that thread. I am also a moderator on another forum and there it would have been appropriate for me to delete it but here because of the AntiPoints system and the fact that it was a joke and only slightly offensive to begin with I should have left it alone. Each time I visit this site I learn more and that was certainly one valuable lesson. Thanks to all of you that responded (even those that told me to go f**k myself :) ).

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not to mention a royal pain in the butt

your a good man StreetRunner

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I'll second that. I haven't had much to say about the new management, largely because I wanted to see how things were going to shake out before making any kind of judgement. I will go on record now as saying that I see a lot of things that really concern me, and I think some of the decisions that are being made are colossal mistakes. But in my book, that is mitigated by the fact that all of the new admins seem to be good people trying their best.

I will offer a word of advice to StreetRunner and the other new admins: About a year and a half ago, I was involved in the sale of a bankrupt hotel on the legal end of things, and I ended up being asked to serve as the acting General Manager until a permanent one could be found (lasted 6 months). Upon our arrival, we implemented drastic cost-cutting measures across the board and made changes to the day-to-day operation that we felt needed to be made immediately to help make the hotel profitable. Unfortunately, the result was complete chaos and a staff that was so unhappy and confused half of them walked out. Moreover, a lot of the regular guests stopped staying because they were used to the old way of doing things. We cut out things like free breakfast and free drink cards to get it in the black, but it ended up costing us our regular guests.

The moral of the story is lie low until you get a grip on what you're dealing with. People don't like drastic change. Do you know the one about boiling the frog? If you throw it in boiling water, it will jump out. But if you put it in cool water and turn the heat up slowly, it will boil to death. Don't come in and try to change things overnight. You certainly will have to find new ways of doing business in order to be profitable, but you can't do it without understanding the beast you have inherited. If you do, you may kill it. I see you guys making the same mistakes I made, and I fear the consequences may be the same.

Are you advocating that the new management boil us to death problemchild?

Don't worry. The "new management" is not out to squelch expression.

This is all about a single mistake that StreetRunner made and he's owned up to it.

The other problems people have referred to are a result of changing the server and moving it to a new hosting environment. Little glitches happened that are all technical in nature -- example upgrading some fo the server software resulted in scripts not working correctly. So we had to roll back.

The site isn't going to change its attitude toward free expression.

- Jupman

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Originally posted here by JupMan
Don't worry. The "new management" is not out to squelch expression.

This is all about a single mistake that StreetRunner made and he's owned up to it.

The other problems people have referred to are a result of changing the server and moving it to a new hosting environment. Little glitches happened that are all technical in nature -- example upgrading some fo the server software resulted in scripts not working correctly. So we had to roll back.

The site isn't going to change its attitude toward free expression.

- Jupman

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No, the "new management" won't "squelch", I think you mean "squash", free speech... they'll just take the entire General chit-chat forum off the front page. Problem solved.

I realize this is a security forum and yet I can't help but wonder why chit-chat has, by far, the most threads...hmmm.....let me think..... people come to chat and stay for the security info. Some even come for the security info and stay to chat.

Change sometimes is a good thing, but when you start changing an already good thing you tend to screw it up beyond reparation....

I'm not concerend with "little technical difficulties", I live with "little technical difficulties" every day at work, I'm more concerned with change, just for the sake of changing.

But like it's been said before, you all "own" the site, right? You can work hard to make it "run" faster, but it was running just fine without you're intervention. The moderators did their jobs well, before you came along. The members bickered in chit-chat but still kept this a security-related forum before you came along...... you get the point, don't you.

P.S. That last lil' bit was rhetorical, I already know your answer. :thumbsup: :D

Thanks for reading my little tirade. I will digress and only speak about security here at AO.