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deftones12, they are 2 different folders, if not, then can you please explain to me why there were full length movies sitting in there on my computer? I mean come on, they have NOTHING to do with IE in any way shape or form.... The temp IE folder and this folder are entirely different folders, as stated somewhere above. If I am wrong, please correct me :)
I disagree. There is a visible, controllable Temporary Internet Files folder. You can see it. You can see what's in it. You can set restrictions on its size and you can delete the files in it.Quote:
Thats not spying...it just takes all the files that were originally in the Temp. file and places them into the Content.IE5 folder.
This is completely hidden- even after you select to Show All Hidden files and folders.
I don't know what the intent or use is, but it seems very illegitimate.
In NTSF there are also Alternative Data Streams
these are the true hidden files, make that file system
to view these you can employ List Alternative Data Streams (LADS) Freeware
Alternative Data Streams FAQ
The Dark Side of NTFS
Inside Win2K NTFS Part 2 Windows 2000 Magazine
NTFS Alternative Data Streams Windows and .NET Magazine
Ntework Trojans: What you really need to know Information Security Bulletin
Alternative Data Streams pose a unique
(and thankfully so far, underemployed) security threat
Does anyone know what the official reason for this is? I'm sure they would claim that Microsoft never ever looks in that directory. hehe
Cool stuff definately.. I saw stuff I browsed for a couple of years ago. One thing that may be a little easier on changing directories from a command line.
Try: cd docu* instead of having to type the truncated lines. This works under Linux as well.
Best Regards,
Brujoh
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I googleed "UICLSID={7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}"
http://www.geocities.com/registrylord/desktop.txt
I dont understand why one would go to all that trouble or buy / download software to delete temporary inet files ?
All you have to do is to open in IE the Tools menu / select internet options, click on delete files (tick the "delete all offline content"), then click on delete cookies (if you realy want to log into all those websites again) and finaly the clear history button.
That still leaves a few files and folders, but not those megabytes as some has found according to this thread.
One good idea is to tick under advanced options the "empty internet files folder when browser is closed" this wount delete cookies or the history, but still those who reported really big temp files should defenetly do this. (exept if still surffing with modem)
Deleteing cookies from the internet temporary files, will also delete them from the cookies sub dir under the user profile. Guess its the same files, just from a different "view"
Invasion of privacy ? Am I missing something?
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Originally posted here by HippoDuck
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I dont understand why one would go to all that trouble
To protect my plans for World Domination of course :p
The CAD files of my death ray must not fall into the hands of the authorities
In reality, encrypting your hard drive would be a better solution
ADS (Alternative Data Streams) where originally implemented for Mac interoperability,
there are many theories as to why Microsoft's index.dat's exist, a forensics trail for the authorities ranks pretty high
I used to employ Spider to remove these in IE5
now I use Phoenix
Now a days if there is something I want to kill I employ a W2K\XP shutdown script
To create a shutdown script for Win2k/XP...
Create a new text document with the dos command to delete the file that you want using the old 8.3 filename structure...
For example "del c:\progra~1\annoying.dll" (without quotes)
Then save the file as a .cmd file. Then click Start, Run and type in GPEDIT.MSC and click ok.
From there find the Scripts section (am not in front of a machine at the moment that I can access it) then select shutdown and open the window. Activate your .cmd file in that window and click apply and ok. Close down and reboot the computer to run the file, then check to see if it is still there when your computer comes back on.
Then go back into gpedit.msc and remove the file from the scripts
Its one of the most useful things that I have found, I have it set to automatically delete all users temp files and all the internet temp files including the content.ie5 ones every time windows shuts down.
If I get a trojan that gets past my AV and my firewall, 9 times out of ten gets nuked at reboot
Its great for any number of things...
For those that cannot find the scripts setting a direct way in is here:
Start > Run > GPEDIT.MSC (click ok) > Local Computer Policy > Windows Settings > Scripts(Startup/Shutdown) > Shutdown (double click) > Click Add and then Browse... add your .cmd file there...
I swiped the above italics from Necropolis
nice....several gigz cleaned now,and ill sleep alittle better....maybe :)
beyond, welcome to AO!
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Yo!
You all know that just clearing out the temporary internet files via the IE tools and settings, clears this out. Right? Not just the temporary internet files folder, but also this "tin-foil hat" folder that everyone is getting worked up about.
edit Yeah, that's it. Let's neg me because you don't appreciate someone rehashing old information. God forbid people have more to contribute to this, after all. In fact, bring it on. I'll completely reopen this and expand upon it SINCE it applies to the same subject as the parent poster.
That's not a bad thing right? Continuing a conversation that is completely relevant to the parent poster? Good.
A few things to note about this hidden folder "tin-foil" method. The folder is created by Explorer for 2 main reasons:
1. Microsoft is trying to protect copyright law by moving some data to a secondary hidden folder. Most .mov and .wmv files will be moved here for this exact reason. Granted, all information in the temporary internet folder is copied into the IE tinhat folder, but notice that there are a lot of files in the Ie tinhat folder that are media based and do not exist in the temporary internet folder. This is called "Assisted copyright protection", so non-savvy users can't start pirating data from the web.
2. Backup. A lot of employess know how to delete their history trail, but not all of them know about registry editing and clearing a secondary Ie folder. Granted, it's a messy hack, but MS learned that employers wanted a feature that would backup the history/cookies/data of employees that surfed the web. Most common-day admins will expand upon this and backup that hidden folder every hour, since doing so won't hinder the box in a way that would make the user suspicious.
And there you have it. No hidden MS agenda to send off that information. No hidden MS agenda to copy that information to their servers. For those of you who have ran an sniffer, you'll see this first hand. None of that data is sent out. Not weekly, not daily, not 'per reboot', and not when a program is in use.
There is a LOT of myth and mystery behind a subject that should never be tinfoil hatted.
Let me also address the people telling me to "read the FAQ!". I already did, so let me read it to you:
That's it. Not OMFGDON0T POST!!!11. Not "I recommend you not posting". But to keep in mind how old a topic may be when posting a reply to it.Quote:
Posts with blinking dates are posts that are older than 336 hours, or 2 weeks. Keep this in mind when you reply to a post with blinking dates.
Balls, Temp internet is hidden, full stop.Quote:
1. Microsoft is trying to protect copyright law by moving some data to a secondary hidden folder. Most .mov and .wmv files will be moved here for this exact reason. Granted, all information in the temporary internet folder is copied into the IE tinhat folder, but notice that there are a lot of files in the Ie tinhat folder that are media based and do not exist in the temporary internet folder. This is called "Assisted copyright protection", so non-savvy users can't start pirating data from the web.
So why is it still a feature of XP HomeQuote:
2. Backup. A lot of employess know how to delete their history trail, but not all of them know about registry editing and clearing a secondary Ie folder. Granted, it's a messy hack, but MS learned that employers wanted a feature that would backup the history/cookies/data of employees that surfed the web. Most common-day admins will expand upon this and backup that hidden folder every hour, since doing so won't hinder the box in a way that would make the user suspicious.
So why is it necessary to hack the registery to erase the paging files on reboot. Why is it that every dasta recovery job I have done has recovered stuf that people would rather not have anyone see? Why can I recover typed URLs? etc,etc.Quote:
And there you have it. No hidden MS agenda to send off that information. No hidden MS agenda to copy that information to their servers. For those of you who have ran an sniffer, you'll see this first hand. None of that data is sent out. Not weekly, not daily, not 'per reboot', and not when a program is in use.
I ware no hat tinfoil or other.
And? The majority of non-savvy people know how to turn on "show hidden files", due to how plain in site it is. It's also a common tactic that MANY network security websites teach to very basic users when it comes to removing spyware. The MAJORITY of normal windows xp users will know how to accomplish this task. Not nearly as many know (or will have the courage) how to hop into cmd.exe and do some direct file editing to uncover a hidden folder. (much less which file to edit).Quote:
Balls, Temp internet is hidden, full stop.
Why do buisness workstations still use Windows 2k instead of Windows 2k Server or Professional? For the same reason that a lot of companies will run Windows XP Home on the workstations of their normal users:Quote:
So why is it still a feature of XP Home
1. Advanced features like connecting remotely to other computers is not something a typical day-shift employee needs, and therefore it is useless to include that and many other admin-level applications and configurations that a user will never use.
2. Because of #1, having your users on a OS that is much more rapidly supported now and in the future means it is still going to cost money. Since they don't need the features to accomplish their daily tasks that the admin needs, Windows XP Home is cheaper for the company and still gets the job accomplished for the day-shifters.
Windows XP Home still has it because bossess/admins still want to keep track of day-shift employees. That is why it is still in Windows XP Home.
I already explained this in my origonal post, so just go back and read the reason #2 of my first post in this thread.Quote:
So why is it necessary to hack the registery to erase the paging files on reboot. Why is it that every dasta recovery job I have done has recovered stuf that people would rather not have anyone see? Why can I recover typed URLs? etc,etc.
So what were you trying to accomplish here?Quote:
I ware no hat tinfoil or other.
guardian alpha,Quote:
beyond, welcome to AO!
This thread is actually way too old (check the flashy thing, if it flashes, it's way too old)...
Please visit the AO FAQ HerE for more introduction!
Yo!
Hi!
Telling a fellow AO Newbie to visit the AO FAQ is not bad, right?
I think it’s a nicer way than telling, “OMFGDON0T POST!!!11. Not "I recommend you not posting".
Another point, the last post before beyond’s post was posted 04-16-2003 11:04 PM, and a reply after 22 months like
could use a little AO FAQ reading.Quote:
nice....several gigz cleaned now,and ill sleep alittle better....maybe
The thread helped him, yeah, so as the AO FAQ could help him more.
Yo!
Why? Because he wanted to talk about how much the topic helped him? Because he has to say somethign relevant to the origonal topic and didn't want to start a fresh one just to report how well it worked?Quote:
Another point, the last post before beyond’s post was posted 04-16-2003 11:04 PM, and a reply after 22 months like could use a little AO FAQ reading
You all badger new people for not searching AO before asking questions, but yet when they try to continue a thread that they found by searching, you neg them. Why? What would be the point in opening up a new thread that has to link to an entirley seperate thread before he can even discuss what he wants? ESPECIALLY when he can just continue a thread that already exists on a topic that is exactally what he wants to talk about.
Forget how old a thread is. Relevance is relevance is relevance. Can you honestly tell me that you want all old thread information to become outdated? So that when you tell them to search the forums for their answers, they discover 2-3 years old worth of information that may/may not be valid and up to date, without a hint that the information MAY be updated but never brought to light?
And scratch, the FAQ doesn't even get close to recommending people NOT post in old threads. It says to keep in mind how old the thread is. This is because the information may be so old that no one remembers anything about it, and thus you may not get a reply.
Devils Advocate mostly :DQuote:
So what were you trying to accomplish here?
I would hazard a quess that 2k Server is totaly inapropriate for a workstation. However I understand your point of view. Three years ago I worked for a company that was still useing Win 95!!Quote:
Why do business workstations still use Windows 2k instead of Windows 2k Server or Professional
guardian alpha,
:) Hi again!
Right. That's why I said...Quote:
And scratch, the FAQ doesn't even get close to recommending people NOT post in old threads. It says to keep in mind how old the thread is. This is because the information may be so old that no one remembers anything about it, and thus you may not get a reply.
I did not say thisQuote:
beyond, welcome to AO!
This thread is actually way too old (check the flashy thing, if it flashes, it's way too old)...
Please visit the AO FAQ HerE for more introduction!
... or maybe you understand it this way, sorry... What the idea is, as a newbie like me, I've been introduced to reading the FAQ, the same way I am introducing to our felow newbie here, now, is there any other else that bothers you?Quote:
“OMFGDON0T POST!!!11. Not "I recommend you not posting".
You miss my point, I guess...
Now, I should suggest you go get on the topic with jinxy ;)
Peace!
Yo!
You do not reply to 22 month old topics to say it helped you. You give the user positive AP points, and describe why in the little text box that says "Description" or something of the sort. If you are to reply to such an old thread, it is not to say something 'relevant', but to expand upon the topic. Have we learned anything new from that post..or from any others? No. Going to www.microsuck.com will tell you everything that was already listed.
balls to you AO Newbies..don't screw with senior members, you just can't win.
A_T
Just few updates what i've seen.
You need not use the actual 8.3 names. Put the entire copied text between "" and you can use spaces in dos commands.
You can use the normal windows explorer, without editing any file to clean up the temporary files of any other user profile other than the one logged on to. you can see the temporary folders listed down like normal folders in other user profiles. check it out.
Also other 3rd party programs with folder browsing capabilities lists down these folders.
-Joseph
When I run Command it comes up
C:\Docume~1\Admini~1>
I copied and put the address on notepad that was
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temporary Internet File
What do I need to type and when I type the edit ini it says to type minus and after the = there is none of that Please help
Ok once you open the .ini file you need to press the Down Arrow OnceQuote:
Originally Posted by scooper33
then at the start of that 2nd line you need to put a - at the very start of the line and at the end of the line it will have a = put a space and then put another -
Then once that is done save the file :)
just download ccleaner. its fast and effective, they're always updating it too. heres the link http://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
Wow, blast from the past lol.
Thanks for the tip chaosclown, I'll check it out. Always looking for good utilities and tools for my collection ;)
yeah lol. that whole site has a lot of very good utilities, and most of em are all free. i go there for my graphics driver updates :)