how to poison your mind with antionline [and lavender usage]

Chemical, if you are still reading this...
I can only hope that you are somewhat aware (even if it is subconsciously), just how unintelligent you have proved yourself to be with this post. It was very insulting, but at who? Wanna-be seekers of knowledge? I highly doubt you know anybody in this "community" well enough to know how far their interests extend beyond security. I might point out that these ARE computer security-related discussion forums. So I am confused as to why you posted such an accusing post to all of us. I can only conclude that you either assumed that because we only talk about security, that we know nothing about anything else(which I'm sure couldn't be further from the truth), or you were merely sharing with us your distaste for such people who claim to be seeking knowlege yet concern themselves only with computers. Either way, your post was immature and I suggest you express your personal issues elsewhere. Perhaps to someone who cares or is qualified to help you. Otherwise, we talk about computer security here, and you're welcome to join in those discussions.

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A) be able to write their own tutorials, instead of copy/pasting them or just linking to other sites,
B) be able to write non-"newbie" tutorials (a case of the blind leading the blind?),

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As someone who writes her own tutorials as well as posts newbie tutorials I would like to add my two cents for what they are worth.

There is nothing wrong with newbie tutorials. Everyone starts somewhere, everyone is a newbie at some point. To make the assumption that you have nothing new to learn even if you are a "expert" is wrong. Everyone can learn something new. My posts on *nix commands resulted in some messages that reminded me of other commands as well as commands I never used previously. It was a worthwhile experience for me and I don't doubt for those that learned something.

I think there are a variety of reasons that people come here -- most are to learn something or another. The idea that someone must be of a certain IQ level to be good at either being a security expert or hacker doesn't correlate to me. IQ levels are only an indication of one's ability to do a test. Whoopee. I would rather give someone the basic tools to learn from and/or fail from so that they can go farther than have them do a test.

If you are not impressed with the tutorials here, then I ask that you post some. I would like to see some more adviced material. I believe Wizeman is working on one. The level of the tutorials is what you make it. You want it higher, then post higher level ones. So far, most of the people here want something to start from, this is their first foray into security/hacking.

For what its worth..

Man, I always knew something about my life wasn't right...guess I shouldn't have gotten out of bed today, hehe...this life is a lie!
I've failed myself! I've tricked myself into believing I actually do a good job! I've purported to other people my talents and they actually pay me good money for this "job" I've fallen into by pure bullshitting and pity from others!

Hey wait...

Well damn, if I actually gave a rat's @$$ about half the 'insults' thrown my way, I might consider myself scathed, depressed, and feel like giving up...glad I don't! Sorry you had a bad life or something, dude[tte], it must suck to have to come on here and 'rain on our parade' if we truly are a bunch of posers of some such. And frankly, the big vocabulary you seem to like to flaunt tells me either A: you're fairly "smart" (booksmart that is, I've seen no proof otherwise), B: you mutter "nobody loves me" at night all alone in your parents 10+ bedroom mansion, C: glare at all the people not sitting at your table at lunch, or D: any combination of the above or anything else I might've not mentioned. There's a million unsaid reasons for your post, but hey, everyone's entitled to an opinion which is why I'm not flaming *you* for what *you do* (or don't for that matter).

On any note, relatively good post, although I consider talking "big" on the same level as lectures...they don't really "contrive" much "sagacious intellect" towards the mass of humanity in here called "hax0rs" and they really bore me.

*note: lavender usage posted at the very end of this tutorial
- Gee, I wonder what this guy uses lavender for. ;)


The aim of this tutorial is to point out and discuss in great detail the ****ing idiocy that pervades most of you, and how you are doing yourselves a great disservice by acting the way you do. AND SUCH
- It seems that you missed your aim in your self proclaimed "tutorial". All you mannaged to do was bitch, complain, and insult the people of this community. Good one.

The problem with this forum and this entire community is its users. that means you, most of you.
- Yes, I agree. The problem with this form and this entire community IS its users. It's users like you that poison the form with irrelevant and ignorant post such as the one that you've made.

You hold in such high regard the title 'hacker' that you would spend eons of time learning material that you believe will heighten you to this level.
- It appears that this individual wasn't accepted in some other security community so he decided to bitch about it here. The right to call one's self a "hacker" isn't self proclaimed. It's earned through years of learning.

---CLICHE ALERT: I'm on a quest for knowledge, man! I'm on a journey of the mind!----
- It would appear that your journy for knowledge has ended. You need to pick up where ever it is you left off...

Would you who sing this mantra just shutup for a second and look at yourselves from an objective point of you.
- Ironic, isn't it. I was thinking the same thing when I read this.
Take a look at yourself before you come in here and start insulting everyone due to YOUR lack of intelligence.

The knowledge is extremely limited in scope, usually towards the "computer" sector. SINCE WHEN IS SUCH A JOURNEY LIMITED TO COMPUTERS?
- Well, you do have a point there. I agree with that statement. Its the best one you've made so far.


YOU ARE SUCH BULLSHITTERS,
- That's the pot calling the kettle black. :D

AND THE WORST OF IT IS THAT THE PERSON YOU HAVE BEEN BULLSHITING HAS BEEN YOU,
- And where did you get this from? WTF makes you think that your so much more superior that any of the rest of us?

YOURS TRULY MASTER HACKER KID. Even when you are on a GOD FORSAKEN COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE QUEST, it is often for dubious reasons.
- Wow, this keeps going on, and on and on.... NO ONE CARES.

Employment. To belong to a social groupl/subculture. Money. Recognition amongst your peers.
- I believe someone needs the help of Google

The belief that knowing a few computer commands makes you smarter than other people. AD INFINITUM. Your reasons are FAR FAR FAR from being IDEALISTIC. The sooner you acknowledge this fact, the sooner you will distance yourself from the idiots that pervade this subculture of yours.
- Where oh where to begin. You so stuck on your own self rightousness that you can't seem to realize that you aren't the "Uberleet hacker" that you believe your self to be. Wake up...

THE PRIMARY problem that most of you face, YOUR PRIMARY hurdle in obtaining the life you so desire, is the fact that most of you are INTELLECTUALLY VAPID.
- Bla, Bla, Bla...

You are, at best, AVERAGE in intelligence.
...That's more than I can say for you.

AVERAGE, OKAY?
- Ok. Average. Is there something wrong with being average? Do you not realize that? Do you not think in your tiny little self absorbed mind that a few of the individuals with "Average" intelligence may have the mental capacity to out smart you?

The type of people you idolize and probably think of while masturbating are ABOVE AVERAGE in intelligence,
often extremely so.
- I don't think that Jenna Jameson is stupid or unintelligent but then again, I wouldn't say that she's above adverage either. ;)

Sure, they do all the things you *try* to do, except that it comes easier to them.
- I don't think that she even knows the meaning of a database administrator. And how would that come easier for a p0rn star? :D

THEY CAN FIGURE THINGS OUT BY THEMSELVES.
I think that most of them can but you're giveing them too much credit.

THEY CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS.
- Unlike your self, most individuals can.

THEY HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY COUPLED WITH THE MOTIVATION TO ACTUALLY GET ANYWHERE AS FAR AS COMPUTERS AND COMPUTER SECURITY ARE CONCERNED.
- Who is this "They" that you keep refering to? I don't think that Jeena Jameson even uses a computer, much less uses it for security related puropses.

I don't doubt your motivation.
- I don't doubt your ignorance nor your uberleet capability of pissing every one off.

Hell, you're probably even more motivated than they are since you watched the movie Hackers 39 times and you memorized the lines as a QUICK PARTY TRICK on IRC.
- Bla Bla Bla.... bitch bitch bitch..... wine wine wine.....


Let's face it, YOU'RE STUPID.
...What? You come in here makeing stupid post like this and I'M stupid? Do you think that because you've insulted everyone thats wasted their time reading your bullshit that, that has made you more intelligent than the rest of us? What? You come in here bitching and complaining about this and that and the other and then call us STUPID... What th ***** is your problem? Did you get h4x0r3d by the awesome Sub 7? Did some one take over your box? Got a virus?.... In any case, no one cares. Go away.

YOU'LL NEVER BE HACKERS.
- Bla bla bla...

At best, you'll be what you deem "script kiddies".
[more on this later]
- Go get your lavender and take a shower. Shut the ***** up.

And this is AT BEST, MY FRIENDS, AT BEST.
Did I or any one else ever once state that I/we wated to be your friend? Who needs enemies with friends like you.

So what is wrong with being stupid?
- Haveing to listen to bitching, wineing, complaining, STUPID people like you.

NOTHING.
- Wrong.

Most of it is genetics.
- So that's where you get your stupidity. I was just wondering. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Sorry, you got the short end of the stick.
- Speaking of sticks. Instead of being beaten with the ugly stick, judgeing from your comments, you fell from the top of the tree and hit every branch and twig on your way down.

THAT'S OKAY, THOUGH!
- If you say so. If I were you I'd buy about fivety dollars worth of paper bags. That way you can have enought to wear year round.

Life doesn't necessitate a high level of intelligence to have happyness. On the contrary, people who commit suicide are usually above average in intelligence.
- Where did you come up with this ****? People who commit suicide are even stupider than you are... Thats pretty *****ing stupid. It dosen't take a mass amount of intelligence to pull the trigger, jump off buildings, or what ever.

People with higher degrees of intelligence are usually more prone to depression and such.
- Where do you get the statistics for makeing these ignorant statements?

COUNT YOURSELF LUCKY.
- I do. :D

There are plenty of VERY HIGH paying jobs that don't require massive amounts of intelligence.
- So there may be hope for you yet... may be.

There are also a bunch of "computer" jobs that also don't require much of anything except a pulse. HA! Those are pathetic, **** jobs! Embarassing jobs! Dead-end jobs!---
- BINGO! That's where your going to end up... if your lucky.

HALT, I SAY. Where would we be without our KEYBOARD CLEANERS and PRINTER FIXERS and SQL PROGRAMMERS
(THAT MEANS YOU REMOTEFAG).
- It's REMOTE_ACCESS_ ... you should be so lucky not to live in my neghborhood. If i ever saw you I'd kill ya. I would end your miserable and meaningless life. Simple end you. It's easy to sit at your computer and talk **** about me. And what programming languages do you know? What degress do you have?

THEY PAY WELL ENOUGH TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND GO TO IRC GET TOGETERS ONCE IN A WHILE. YOU'LL DO FINE.
- You on the other hand won't. You'll still be in the shower with the lavender... or you'll be sitting at your computer lookin at p0rn stars with your bottle of lavender and haveing a jolly ole time.

SCRIPT KIDDIES.
- A.K.A. Chemical. Oblio. Hehbris. Sebastios.

You are all entwined in some infinite circle of EGO GRATIFICATION.
- No you're not. This guy just has a soft spot for script kiddies because he is one.

This is really the primary purpose of this forum.
- bitch bitch bitch. nag mother *****er nag.

YES. THAT IS ALL.
- Yes it is. Bitching. Winening. Complaining. Naging. That's all folks.

...YOU GOT SHUNNED FROM OTHER PLACES FOR ACTING STUPID AND NOW YOU BRING YOUR STUPIDITIES HERE WHERE THEY ARE HURRAHED AND PRAISED BY OTHER LIKE MINDED FOLK.
- Tell me again why you're here? It seems that YOU are the one that was shunned so you come in here bitching and complaing. Bla bla bla. Who's really the one acting a fool? Y-O-U


Those that aren't idiots on this forum are either here because
A) they feel as though they aren't capable of distinction in other groups or, B) are here for SHEER ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES.
- Out of the two, I pick B. Reading post like yours are always a kick. Sheer entertainment. :D

As for script kiddies, the reason you are all so hyper about shouting malicious stupidities towards them is because YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN THAT THEY KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO. THEY ARE MORE CAPABLE THAN YOU ARE.
- Speak for your self.

Breaking into systems requires A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF INTELLIGENCE.
- Well... it seems you qualify for haveing the minimual amount of intelligence. Since you so humblely believe that, lets see. Break into my box. Use what ever tool you'd like... Even your favorite, Sub 7....

Most of you FAIL THIS CRITERIA. SORRY. Move on and clean keyboards with enthusiasm.!
- Move on. Go Away. Get Lost. Get a life. Go cry and moan somewhere else.

DO YOU WANT IN ON A SECRET OF MINE?
- Uh oh, he's finally comeing out of the closet. I knew there was something wierd about this fellow.

To find the ones that are the most insecure about their own knowledge/ability to obtain knowledge look at a particular type of posting on this forum.
- Just look at this guy's post. Do you see what kind of intelligence it takes to insult people and complain?... none.

Whenever you see a post about ETHICS or LAWS or tutorials like "HOW NOT TO GET FLAMMED" (THAT MEANS YOU ENISFAG)
- Are you fond of homosexuals? His name is ENNIS.

and **** like that, you know they are THE BIGGEST POSEURS HERE.
- Bla Bla Bla.
<Begin endless bitching> !STFU </End endless bitching>

Why? Because they are BARELY trying to increase their computing knowledge.
- That's more that what I can say for you. At least they're still trying to expand their knowledge of computers.

They are clueless,
- They? YOU are clueless. Wake the ***** up.

and will likely remain that way for a long time. It's not that they don't learn, because everybody learns things every now and then,
- Every now and then may be when YOU learn something... Don't place me in the same category as an unintelligent hypoticritical ego maniac like you.

it's that they learn so incredibly slowly that their learning curve is so HIGH that it will take them YEARS to understand what someone of higher intelligence will in but a few weeks or months. THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD LEARN TO FIX PRINTERS, BUCKO. FIX THEM WITH THE SAME RAH RAH RAH THAT YOU EXIBIT WHEN YOU _TRY_ TO LEARN COMPUTING STUPIDITIES.

Let's face it, if you want to become a CAPABLE programmer, you need a certain degree of intelligence.
- One that you don't seem to posess.

My guess is an IQ of AT LEAST 115.
- Your IQ is AT MOST 80... I'M SORRY, YOU FAIL ONCE MORE.

The good thing about this is that most of you REALIZE that you are TOO STUPID to become hackers when you try to master a programming language.
- Tell me again how many languages you know. What degrees do you have? What certificates have you obtained? What qualifications do you have?

GO AHEAD. Please, humour me.
Hehe, humor me. Tell me what makes you so much more superior than the rest of us.

Learn C. Learn assembly. Learn it well enough to be able to flame alt.programming gurus when they make mistakes in their snippet postings. IF YOU CAN ACHIEVE THIS TASK THEN THERE IS HOPE FOR YOU YET.
- There is not hope for you. Go Away. You would be lucky to be ably to learn ANY language.

ATTENTION Cheemical:
Please GRASP THE FACT THAT YOU ARE NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH TO REALLY EXCEL IN THIS FIELD OR ANY OTHER FIELD RELATED TO COOMPUTERS.

Caveat: languages like SQL are not good enough for this little test. I said C AND assembly. BOTH.
- Do you know C? Do you know assembly? Do you know SQL? Do you know ANY languages....
Can you say CONTRIBUTE? Why don't you help people instead of critisizeing everyone. Stop complaining. You are more than welcome to LEAVE at any time, but what better time than NOW?

"You're random acts of idiocy contribute nothing positive."

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Chemical: You have still neglected to tell us YOUR qualifications to call us all dumb.

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As for script kiddies, the reason you are all so hyper about shouting malicious stupidities towards them is because YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN THAT THEY KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO. THEY ARE MORE CAPABLE THAN YOU ARE.

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I forgot about that one, whoops... I know deep down that a "script kiddie who runs on aol and knows nothing more than 'download-to-free-shell->run make->exploit-after-reading-instructions' or by downloading a vb script/exe and using point-and-click to 'destroy' someone"? Before anyone jumps me, having been on a mud that was hosted on my own linux box, yes, every aol person seemed to have a vendetta against me (and they didn't get in still) so that's why I say AOL. But hey, my knowledge of keeping them out was nothing but bullshit, remember? Chemical told me so! And as I sit here at work waiting for an FC60 to find its 10 18-gig FW SCSI disks so I can create those volume groups for Oracle 11i, I realize, my whole life is a mess and nothing but a failure! Chemical told me so! Pure genius... I'm gathering this guy is a self-admitted "smart-O" jock who can speak in sentences that have more than just 4-letter words so he can expound his gargantuan envisions of intellect to us. Geez, you'd think I read those out of a book. Gah, I'd rather program but remember, Chemical told me I'm only average and stupid and I'm failing....damn, what a sigh of relief I'm breathing now that I know I don't have to fake anyone anymore!

Dumbass....that's all I've got to say...pure 100% dumbass...

What I fail to understand, Chemical, is where you get the idea about what this whole website was created for. Obviously you don't know. Let me tell you then, if your still reading and not hiding away under your bathroom sink for the fear of ever posting again since after your first post you've been to hell and back with flames...

This website was intended for security discussions. It is true that about 80 or so percent of the inhabitants of AntiOnline are hackers or (as you call them) 'wanna-be hackers'. Yet we are all here for one reason - security. Not hacking, not cracking, not phreaking...not your lovely criticizing that is right now pissing the hell out of every AntiOnline poster with the right mind. I am astonished that you are even scared to show your identity...if you really had feelings like this, why not post a 'reasonable' post (instead of that trash) about your view points. But no, you had to create a whole new profile for yourself - for you knew this would happen. When will you lear to stop critizing people and start learning...shutup for once...and read a few (reasonable) posts...your so self-centered it drives me crazy...

...I have nothing further to say. I wish you good-luck where ever you may end up...*cough*_keyboard cleaner_*cough*...

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[i]Originally posted by [WebCarnage]
...I have nothing further to say. I wish you good-luck where ever you may end up...*cough*_keyboard cleaner_*cough*... [/B]

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Hey....whats wrong with keyboard cleaning? Its an honorable profession and provides an useful service (Its my dream job ...a promotion from "help desk hell" if you will LOL) It provides a means of support for a family....UNLIKE the kind of garbage "chemical"(autumn regret) spews out.Her posts benifit NO ONE

That is not right or fair

Ah - the dreamers dream...*harps start playing* ...a keyboard cleaner. One of the many fascinating ordeals in life one must go through...(coffee spills, peanut butter stuck between letters, nephiew stabbing keyboard with knife...i.e.)...

Yet you seem to know Autumn Regret is Chemical...how so? If you can tell by the way he/she types i'm going to shoot you... But thats besides the point - Yes, it's true that Chemical/(Autum Regret?) posts nothing but trash. Infact - he/she must totally be ignored... thats my point of view at least. If we had never replied...nothing would have happened. Oblio - seeing his girlfriend (maybe?) has no attention whatsoever might leave as well...and if nobody replied to Sebastos12's posts...then maybe he'd just give up (knowing the mindframe of a scipties from my school - "Hey, I hate [insert AP Teacher here]...lets go infect his/her computer with the ILOVEYOU virus...i downloaded it yesterday!!!!...wait...why's that wrong.....ah damn...:( ).

We should just leave stupid posts along...don't reply...don't even view the post if you can. And if you can avoid replying to stupid, ignorant, and senseless posts...maybe they'll just go away. (Hahahaha,...I laugh at MY OWN ignorance towards things sometimes...). But seriously folks...don't bother shooting a rats ass for "How Do I hack Hotmail" posts... Yet I beleive, this post on the other hand is different. I suppose we must reply...for it's not stupid...the poster just (obviously) has a lack of information...nothing else at all (besides a bad case of 'beatings with the ugly stick' ...hehehe).

Hello *chemical*, what a lovely post you have there. I suppose you got out the old thesaurus for that one.

I have noticed that you were very careful to sound like a wannabe well educated thesbian in your post. Since we are making wide and general assumptions here, I am going to guess that you are an unattractive gothic homosexual male who spends a good deal of your time trying to sound like a man with an accomplished education. If you are female simply remove the words male and man from the former description of you, and insert the correct terms for your sex.

Your assumptions are dangerous. I am of high intelligence, and yes, I know exactly what my IQ is. I most certainly can program circles around you or any of your thesbian butt pirate friends. My hacking ability is untested outside of my own home network for the same reasons that I have not attempted a bank robbery. It is illegal. Would you care to be the first test subject?

If I were to make one more assumption about you, it would be that you are not of average intelligence, probably below average. This would explain the amount of effort you have gone to in attempting to make users on this forum feel less than adequate.

You are but some coding and CPU time away from having a *challenging* internet experience, arrogant and wordy ass monger.

Perhaps you should look into some security measures for your systems, you are capable of that right? With such HIGH intelligence someone of my below average skill could not possibly be an issue for you. All the same I suggest you look into suggested methods of remaining anonymous.