Lol... I'm going to make them barely be on it... I hate Pedofiles!!! lol
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Lol... I'm going to make them barely be on it... I hate Pedofiles!!! lol
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Originally posted here by Quad
blah blah blah...sombody close this thread.
We have enough of the same in the thread titled "a really nasty case up here."
Who the hell are you??
If you don't like the thread, don't read it! Simple. I was just adding my two cents worth and pointing interested people towards a filter. If that bores you.....bad luck.
If your profile is true, you need to lay off crack...They say the come down is a real bitch.
If you aren't intrested in reading a thread, no one is forcing you to read it! Anyways, this issue needs to be talked about so please if you don't wanna read it, then dont!
well.. educating them is a good point.. but i would just use the logger as a safety precaution.. its like my contingency plan.. my plan b.. hehe
Logging files are good and stuff like that but like many say, "Kids are becomign smarter Computer Wise then their parents" Sadly my kid will NEVER be smarter than me at computers :)
I agree with many of the things said here and I also run my home network like my network at work. Only one computer mine has full access and all other are in the open as in no computers in the kids room. Extensive use of logs but not keyboard loggers, in short they know I can look at any given time at who, what, where and when sites chat are used. It is called parential supervision. Even adults out here can run into problems like my own passed away father that clicked and installed a adult for pay site charged to his phone bill. Guess thing is a computer now and the web is point and click and screen names the in thing as is chat. There is not any software out there that can replace parents looking at what the children do and from the Ad people to ISP's and software programers give a mound of tasks to secure their system and children that use them. Funny how every software license agreement absolves the producers os any liability, what would change is M$ were liable for their holes? Thir are people and corps thay prey upon all of this all of this went to hell with AOL, and M$ figuring out after 6 years how to connect their systems out here. End user agreements need to be clear and not absolve the creator of be responsabile for what they do. This will change only with laws consumer laws. Gonna go pester Raphlf next..like the Covar the Web is Un-safe at any speed!
While I agree we need to be a little paranoid, and vigilent with our childeren, and with these we as parents carry out our responsabilities as parents, and I have said (in effect) that I disagree with keyloggers etc.. different childeren and differnt personality types mean that sometimes you may need to resort to methods that you normaly not rationalise as fair or reasonable.. ie keyloggers, chastity belts...
looking at my own situation, perhaps I am as bad as someone who would place a keylogger on a child computer.. I have a dedicated computer/study room, the homework, computer entertainment etc is carried out here.. so We can keep an eye on the childerens internet activity,oh and they on ours.. in some cases it has had to be give and take...
Yes my comments come from the situation of not having to need to.. ok I am fortunate I suspect...
We just don't live in an ideal world.. well if it was for me, it would be hell for others..
I hope this didn't seem to contradict my earlier post.. but to clarrify and balance some statements
Cheers
I'd have to say that if you want to 'protect' your kids from the evil Internet, the best way to do that is to keep the computer locked down unless you're monitoring it while they're on it. Buy a router, password protect it, and set up times when they can and can't use it. Password protect or even better, get the program that 'freezes' your computer so that nothing can be installed onto it and can be restored back to a point in time. I don't know about going to the keylogging event because that's really privacy-intrusive and God knows, there's enough of that as it is with parents who try to be active in their kids lives.
I'd just tell my kids (if I had any) this: "I see everything you do on there, I know all. I read the logs daily". For all they know, I could be completely full of crap, but if it's a linux based system, hehe....not a joke there, you can log everything and send the log to a remote machine, hence they can't edit anything, not that they could to begin with.
That's another thing, forget windows. Get linux and work on the security side of it. You can get logs, permissions are already pretty good for beginning users and since all they want to do is browse and email and ICQ/AIM, there you go...just by being linux, they can't use win32 apps and that'll save on viruses/trojans/etc...
hmm ok.. here's my game plan..
if i have a kidd under 18.. here's what i'll do
1) install Internet Nanny...
2) Have the computer in a common room.. (i may have a computer in my Computer room but thats restricted access and only I can use it)
3) my computer is networked to the Kid's computer.
4) i will use loggers...
5) my kidd will have HALF of the password for the logger and ill have the other HALF.. that way my kid will feel asured that i will not invade his privacy w/o him/her knowing about it. coz i will need his other half of the password to open the logs.
6) plan B.. my computer is the server and i will install packet annalyzers and softwares that logs whatever my kid is doing.. and w/o him/her knowing about it.
Sonic....this sounds like the best plan I've seen yet :)Quote:
Originally posted here by s0nIc
hmm ok.. here's my game plan..
if i have a kidd under 18.. here's what i'll do
1) install Internet Nanny...
2) Have the computer in a common room.. (i may have a computer in my Computer room but thats restricted access and only I can use it)
3) my computer is networked to the Kid's computer.
4) i will use loggers...
5) my kidd will have HALF of the password for the logger and ill have the other HALF.. that way my kid will feel asured that i will not invade his privacy w/o him/her knowing about it. coz i will need his other half of the password to open the logs.
6) plan B.. my computer is the server and i will install packet annalyzers and softwares that logs whatever my kid is doing.. and w/o him/her knowing about it.