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Oh Yes he did... He used sarin, mustrad, and VX nerve agent on Iranian civilians in the Iran-Iraq war... He has used VX, Sarin, and possibly mustard agents against Kurds in the north of Iraq... According to a report by the DOD in late 98 or early 99 there is "strong evidence" that he used VX and sarin against US troops in the gulf during Desert Storm... He has done it MORE THAN ONCE and he WILL do it again... If not against the US than against Isreal once the shooting starts... As for why the US supports Isreal as oppsed to the Palistinians lets see... Isrealis don't go around taking hostages and hijacking airplanes for starters...
As for why the Muslum terrorists are doing this to us... That one is simple... As far as they are concerned the US is the Devil incarnate...
4MidgetHitmen
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Right, umm, I'll call you 4. Once you take the step and use the stuff, it's easy from then on to use it. I don't think it was difficult for somebody like Saddam to make that decision. He's murdered members of his own family, why would he care about anonymous people, especially if they're Infidels and Jews?
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I agree with you Chuck56... I think that was just one of the reasons why we didn't ever go to all out war with the USSR... We were the only country to ever use Nuclear weapons and as such I think that helped us in the Cold War... The thing that worries me abut any war with Iraq is the fact that he has used them before and if he does again the US respose to use of NBC weapons against our troops is the use of nuclear weapons... And if we have to raise the temprature in Bagdad to 5000 degrees in a nanosecond then Russia is going to feel they have to use theirs and China and Isreal and so on and so on...
4MidgetHitmen
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I think there's a lot of talking that we don't know about going on in Moscow and Peking or Beijing, whatever they call the place today. I think we've got people trying to sell the invasion to them and, hopefully keep them out of it if they won't join us in the war.
We can deal with Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia if necessary. We can probably handle Russia, although I don't think Russia is in a mood to tangle with us. They could barely handle Chechnya.
China is another matter entirely. It's been stated openly that our various war colleges have run scenarios involving a war with China. Using conventional weapons, we cannot beat them. We can nuke them into oblivion, of course. Depending on atmospheric conditions we might also collaterally reduce the populations of India, SE Asia, or possibly Korea and Japan depending on wind and other factors. That's the problem with nuclear weapon.
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Oh yes he has TURBOWEST !
http://www.foreignwire.com/chemical.html
TEHRAN - A gaunt visage of his former self, Ahmaj Faraji's words come in tortured gasps. "It was midnight. We woke to a wind of noxious smoke," he recalls. "I could see thirty of us vomiting, stumbling, blistering and burning."
That night in 1985, the 20-year-old Iranian soldier became what his country calls a 'living martyr', one of the thousands of Iranian victims of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons attacks during the Iran-Iraq war - the first casualties of sustained chemical bombing since World War I
When he regained consciousness, he was blind, unable to see the 3,000 other stretchers packed onto the field of Tehran's soccer stadium, a repository for the overflow of mustard gas victims from the front in southern Iran. Now 32, his trachea closing and lungs corroding, doctors say he may not live much longer.
Faraji is one of more than 60,000 Iranian soldiers and civilians exposed to Iraqi mustard and nerve gas from 1980-88
http://www.byui.edu/scroll/052102%20done/13.html
In addition, the Kurdish community claims over 180,000 lives including women and children have been taken by the Iraqis using nerve agents and mustard gas. Does he have biological weapons? Yes! Iraq has been producing anthrax botulinum and toxic ricin. They claim to have over 85,000 liters of anthrax.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/saddam/
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Scahill_Iraq.htm
March 24th, UPI reported from the United Nations: “Mustard gas laced with a nerve agent has been used on Iranian soldiers in the 43-month Persian Gulf War between Iran and Iraq, a team of U.N. experts has concluded...
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/05-04-98.html
...one clever Russian technician discovered an Iraqi missile which he had been assured was inert, but which yielded a deposit of live mustard gas when he drilled a hole into it. My goodness, this was almost literally a smoking gun! "Nizar Hamdoon had lied to the American people when he said there are no WMD laying around and that we are simply making up one excuse after another to provoke the Iraqi people into doing away with their President." Gotcha! Mustard Gas!! Discovered by a Russian, no less!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1562534.stm
Iraq under Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against both Iran in the 1980-88 war and simultaneously against Iraqi Kurds in 1987-88.
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And where was our sense of outrage then? Who gave him the technology? We did. Who funded his adventure into Iran to destabilise it after our very own Shah was overthrown by fundamentalists there.We did. We stood by silently when he gassed the Iranis as well as the Kurds, coz we didnt like the govt in Iran, and we fought a proxy war through him. We didnt seem to care then....
Anyone interested in Saddams WMD, should look up Scott Ritter.
Furthermore..I have had a bit much to drink, apologies to anyone who feels offended.
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The thing to remember about any war with China is that no matter what we use in the way of nuclear weapons China can stand the losses... Mao Tz Tung former head of China once said that he "would welcome a nuclear war with the western powers." when asked why he replied, "The population of China now sits at 650 million by 2000 it will be over a billion and nuclear war would do nothing more than make it easier to feed my people." Now that isn't an exact quote but very close...
As for neclear fallout as long as you don't ground burst the weapon you won't have fall out... or I should say not as much... there is a real good book on the subject put out by Paladin Press called simply Nuclear War... It has a good deal of information about the effects of a blast, fallout, shelters and likely scenarieos (sorry about my spelling) :(
I would urge anyone even remotely inerested in what might happen to read about the histroy of the wars that have been fought in and around the area and why those who fought those wars either won or lost and how nuclear weapons will be used if they are at all...
No matter what happens and when, this war on terror is going to effect us all in one way or another before it is over... Whether it is my case where my wife is on active duty and will be in the combat zone or if you are like me and could be recalled to active duty... Before it is over it is going to have an impact on us all...
Just my $.02 worth...
4MidgetHitmen
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I agree 4. We need to remember, too, that THEY are HERE. As for me, personally, besides my age, my ability to fight ended on February 3, 1968, during Tet. They don't want one and a half legged soldiers.
I'd completely spaced Paladin Press. I have several of their books and, I agree, anybody wanting to learn anything about combat, warfare, security, and on and on ought to look to them. I think I'll amble over to their website right now.
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For those who may not have stumbled on these pages, here is some interesting reading:
Interview with Richard Butler, former chairman of the UNSCOM (weapons inspectors) (somewhat dated but relevant - Oct 2001);
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ws/butler.html
Saddam - secrets of his life and leadership - an with interview with Said Aburish a journalist who once worked closely with the Iraq administration;
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/aburish.html
I found the content interesting reading.
Regards,
PP
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I will have to try and find the URL but there is another site (I think it was the BBC) that had an interveiw with Sadam and also a couple of people that defected after Desert Storm that talked about his "Leadership"... tha jist of it was that most if not all of his closest advisers and bodyguards are family or from the village where he was born... And not unlike Hitler or Stalin those who say anything he finds offensive tend to dissapper... A very effective form of control... I have seen similar actions in Central America (El Salvador)... As a member of an MTT (Mobile Training Team) we would go in and help the locals with medical care, build wells and schools and plan and train for their own defense against the communist insergents... This worked well enough until the comunists started comming into the vilages after we left and killing and maiming men, women, and children... The message they left was a simple one... "Follow the Americans and we will surely kill you... Do not help the Americans and we will let you be..." thsi is the same message the Iraqi people are getting... "Go with the flow and you will be left alone... speak out and you and your family will die..." Hell of a way to keep people in line don't you think?
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