Hey bullshit works
its fast and easy no thinking required just say bullshit, then off you go. lol
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Hey bullshit works
its fast and easy no thinking required just say bullshit, then off you go. lol
Hey bullshit works
its fast and easy no thinking required just say bullshit, then off you go. lol
Well, I think that most of your have got it right in part.
1. Global warming is certainly happening...........or at least climatic changes are.
2. To suggest that it is a result of human activity is BS, there are much more powerful forces at work.
About 10,000 years ago, where I am sitting right now was under about 200 feet of ice..........it was the Wurm glaciation (sorry, can't do umlauts :) )
The cliffs round here are chalk...........created in a warm tropical sea...........today, if the big yellow helicopter doesn't get to you in about 30 minutes you are history?...........the sea is a LOT colder.
There are coalmines nearby, coal was created in steaming tropical rainforests in the Carboniferous period...........sandstone, laid down in desert conditions?
Negative made a very good point that we don't have the data to project accurately..........we do have historical and geological evidence though. Charles Dickens mentions "ice fairs" on the river Thames in London..........the river froze solid in those days (late 1800's) it doesn't now. In the 1300's the monasteries round here (N.E. England) used to grow grapes and make wine, so it was a lot warmer then?
I would suggest that a lot of people are confusing pollution (which we are certainly responsible for) with climatic change, which is a natural and ongoing process?
Not that it matters, but part of my BSc. Honours degree included meteorology and climatology, so I have studied the subject in some detail, and long before the topic became "fashionable"
I guess that Negative has the right idea on this one, (about 350 years actually, but rather sporadic for the first 200 of those)
Cheers
Mind you........."blaming wimmin".........:)
Well, I think that most of your have got it right in part.
1. Global warming is certainly happening...........or at least climatic changes are.
2. To suggest that it is a result of human activity is BS, there are much more powerful forces at work.
About 10,000 years ago, where I am sitting right now was under about 200 feet of ice..........it was the Wurm glaciation (sorry, can't do umlauts :) )
The cliffs round here are chalk...........created in a warm tropical sea...........today, if the big yellow helicopter doesn't get to you in about 30 minutes you are history?...........the sea is a LOT colder.
There are coalmines nearby, coal was created in steaming tropical rainforests in the Carboniferous period...........sandstone, laid down in desert conditions?
Negative made a very good point that we don't have the data to project accurately..........we do have historical and geological evidence though. Charles Dickens mentions "ice fairs" on the river Thames in London..........the river froze solid in those days (late 1800's) it doesn't now. In the 1300's the monasteries round here (N.E. England) used to grow grapes and make wine, so it was a lot warmer then?
I would suggest that a lot of people are confusing pollution (which we are certainly responsible for) with climatic change, which is a natural and ongoing process?
Not that it matters, but part of my BSc. Honours degree included meteorology and climatology, so I have studied the subject in some detail, and long before the topic became "fashionable"
I guess that Negative has the right idea on this one, (about 350 years actually, but rather sporadic for the first 200 of those)
Cheers
Mind you........."blaming wimmin".........:)
I believe the most compelling evidence that we have a cyclical climate on earth is rather firmly based in logic.
Off the top of my head I believe we have had 3 ice ages. Logically if there were three ice ages then there would have been "warm ages" between them..... or we would have had only a single ice age and we would still be in it...... The test also remains viable even if we only had a single ice age since the blame is being placed upon industrialisation and population - neither of which could have been considered a problem at the end of the last ice age.......
Case closed....... :p
I believe the most compelling evidence that we have a cyclical climate on earth is rather firmly based in logic.
Off the top of my head I believe we have had 3 ice ages. Logically if there were three ice ages then there would have been "warm ages" between them..... or we would have had only a single ice age and we would still be in it...... The test also remains viable even if we only had a single ice age since the blame is being placed upon industrialisation and population - neither of which could have been considered a problem at the end of the last ice age.......
Case closed....... :p
At the same time there is nothing wrong with taking some moderate precautionary steps to reduce poisonous substances into the air. I state MODERATE because industrial society cannot just "step back" to a preindustiral state without consequences that far outweigh the danger associated with depletion of the ozone layer. We just started to measure it in the last few decades, for all we know it's been depleting for centuries? The glacier that flattened out the midwest melted millions of years ago. Perhaps the Global Warming incident started then? Even in modern history of recorded local climates, a day doesn't go bye when I hear "Today it will be 70 degrees, far below the record set in 1878. There is nothing conclusive.
At the same time there is nothing wrong with taking some moderate precautionary steps to reduce poisonous substances into the air. I state MODERATE because industrial society cannot just "step back" to a preindustiral state without consequences that far outweigh the danger associated with depletion of the ozone layer. We just started to measure it in the last few decades, for all we know it's been depleting for centuries? The glacier that flattened out the midwest melted millions of years ago. Perhaps the Global Warming incident started then? Even in modern history of recorded local climates, a day doesn't go bye when I hear "Today it will be 70 degrees, far below the record set in 1878. There is nothing conclusive.
I still believe it's partily our fault (the humans) that the O-Zone layer is getting thinner every day. All of this new "techonology" (a majority of it) is affecting our O-Zone layer. The deoderant I use isn't out of a can nor have I seen canned deoderant but that's not the point. There WILL be a point where you can't go out in the sun because of the Suns rays for all those who say it's bullshit why don't you prove your statment. Anyone can say "That's bullshit" but none of them can prove what they are saying.
EDIT: http://www4.nationalacademies.org/on...e?OpenDocument
I still believe it's partily our fault (the humans) that the O-Zone layer is getting thinner every day. All of this new "techonology" (a majority of it) is affecting our O-Zone layer. The deoderant I use isn't out of a can nor have I seen canned deoderant but that's not the point. There WILL be a point where you can't go out in the sun because of the Suns rays for all those who say it's bullshit why don't you prove your statment. Anyone can say "That's bullshit" but none of them can prove what they are saying.
EDIT: http://www4.nationalacademies.org/on...e?OpenDocument