Hey Hey,
This thread astounds me. I'm surprised it was re-opened. IMHO this guy is nothing more than another skiddie... if I'm wrong, he's gotta be the dumbest person, or the most uninformed person, in the world.
Well they don't use UDP (not for regular every day use anyways) and it's on a completely different layer than IP which has been stated time and time again... Not sure what to say about the "secure" part... it blows my mind.Quote:
I that because they both use UDP?(whis is less secure than IP, but how?
Eventually this is posted.... now it's just getting sad... Time and Time again he's been told UDP is only for certain applications in chat clients and that they primarily use TCP. You can sniff packets because they're UDP? This makes me want to cringe... It's one thing to have a misconception or make a mistake... but it's another thing to say outright that you "know" incorrect information. Sniffing has nothing to do with if it's UDP or not....Quote:
So that it will help me for the future and who to trust.So far I know all the chat clients use UDP and if this is the reason that sniffer steal the packets, without knowing by the owner of the computer.
I think he needs to go back to his computer and learn a little more than where the power button is, and how to double click on the Internet Explorer icon... to stop being a damn skiddie and do something with his life... All he's done is spout off incorrect information in the hopes that someone will tell him how to hack hotmail or MSN Messenger, he may not have said "how do you hack hotmail", but that's exactly what he's waiting to hear....
Anyways... they say not to post unless you are going to provide something useful... so here's the useful part now that I have that outta my system.
Anyways, there's an MSN Messenger message looks like. As you can see, it is clearly _NOT_ UDP. You can tell because there's a TCP Header and in the IP Header the protocol is set to 6 (TCP).Code:IP HEADER 207.46.108.80 -> 192.168.1.100
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IP->version: 4
IP->ihl: 5
IP->tos: 0
IP->tot_len: 201
IP->id: 6868
IP->frag_off: 0
IP->ttl: 115
IP->protocol: 6
IP->checksum: 35189
TCP HEADER
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TCP->sport: 1863
TCP->dport: 3057
TCP->seq: 1375951434
TCP->ack: 283282839
TCP->off: 5
TCP->flags: PUSH|ACK
TCP->window: 17371
TCP->checksum: 53742
TCP->urp: 0
----- Begin of data dump -----
4d 53 47 20 68 74 5f 72 65 67 7a 40 68 6f 74 6d MSG ht_regz@hotm
61 69 6c 2e 63 6f 6d 20 48 54 20 31 32 39 0d 0a ail.com HT 129..
4d 49 4d 45 2d 56 65 72 73 69 6f 6e 3a 20 31 2e MIME-Version: 1.
30 0d 0a 43 6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d 54 79 70 65 3a 0..Content-Type:
20 74 65 78 74 2f 70 6c 61 69 6e 3b 20 63 68 61 text/plain; cha
72 73 65 74 3d 55 54 46 2d 38 0d 0a 58 2d 4d 4d rset=UTF-8..X-MM
53 2d 49 4d 2d 46 6f 72 6d 61 74 3a 20 46 4e 3d S-IM-Format: FN=
4d 53 25 32 30 53 61 6e 73 25 32 30 53 65 72 69 MS%20Sans%20Seri
66 3b 20 45 46 3d 3b 20 43 4f 3d 30 3b 20 43 53 f; EF=; CO=0; CS
3d 30 3b 20 50 46 3d 32 32 0d 0a 0d 0a 74 65 73 =0; PF=22....tes
74 t
----- End of data dump -----
Peace,
HT
