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For that person who suggested you be charged after 50-100 posts-I disagree because it'll be easy to get around that by making a new account.
2nd of all I don't agree with the idea in general because they're some people who are underage (like me) who won't be able to pay and also some people who have economical problems and etc. AO gets money from the advertisments why do they want more? Can't anyone offer a free service and stick to it? Why does everything have to do with money now-a-days?
HTRegz: Ehh, it's alright man. I'm not good with humor ;).
Anyways, just one last "nod against" the suggestion. Wouldn't vBulletin (creator's of this type of forum) have something to say or whatnot that someone (or in this case, JUPM) is using their product to make money off of (aside from the ad's)? I'm just curious, it might not be the case, it might be, but I was just wondering that. I dunno if it's allowed or not, so I dunno.
If it were implemented though, I would pay for my account to stay. I wouldn't mind the small fee, no big harm. I just advise against making the move (especially for JUPM).
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Originally posted here by HTRegz
There are many people who have emphasized a dislike to this idea already and to be honest, they really wouldn't be missed...
Looking at the license agreement, I can't see any rules that prohibit charging members for access to a site powered by vBulletin. The only caveat (other than where you can actually use the forums - e.g. only on one domain etc) relevant is the removal of the vBulletin copyright, which I presume someone at AO has paid the $120 fee for (unless of course the license has changed since then).Quote:
Originally posted here by Spyder32
Wouldn't vBulletin (creator's of this type of forum) have something to say or whatnot that someone (or in this case, JUPM) is using their product to make money off of (aside from the ad's)? I'm just curious, it might not be the case, it might be, but I was just wondering that. I dunno if it's allowed or not, so I dunno.
Golly Gee.......I guess I wouldn't really be missed, and it definitately would not be the end of the world. I would come back and lurk and read, as long as they didn't charge for that.....for a while anyway.Quote:
Originally posted here by HTRegz
As far as telling people to leave if they don't like it.. it doesn't have to be constructive.. it was just honesty.. There are many people who have emphasized a dislike to this idea already and to be honest, they really wouldn't be missed... I was just saying if people don't like the idea and it's implemented they can leave the site.. it won't be the end of the world.
'AO' already has the reputation of being elitist and unfriendly to newbies, so a little charge to be able to post here would just help that right along.
But if they are going to charge at all, why not take it all the way and cure some other problem at the same time. Just have a perpost charge. Say 10 cents per post. For some one that has made 1000 posts, Jupitor Media would make a cool $100.00 US. And if they were to charge $0.25 US per post, then they would make $250.00 per 1000 posts. Add to that what ever membership fee they would charge and they could be making alot of money off the post whores.
Of course they would probably lose most of their income from the advertisements they have on the site, as their click through rate would probably diminish drastically
Just my humble opinion of course.
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Originally posted here by moxnix
Golly Gee.......I guess I wouldn't really be missed, and it definitately would not be the end of the world. I would come back and lurk and read, as long as they didn't charge for that.....for a while anyway.
'AO' already has the reputation of being elitist and unfriendly to newbies, so a little charge to be able to post here would just help that right along.
But if they are going to charge at all, why not take it all the way and cure some other problem at the same time. Just have a perpost charge. Say 10 cents per post. For some one that has made 1000 posts, Jupitor Media would make a cool $100.00 US. And if they were to charge $0.25 US per post, then they would make $250.00 per 1000 posts. Add to that what ever membership fee they would charge and they could be making alot of money off the post whores.
Of course they would probably lose most of their income from the advertisements they have on the site, as their click through rate would probably diminish drastically
Just my humble opinion of course.
I never said everyone that wouldn't pay would be missed... that's misrepresenting what I say... As for as being elitist and unfriendly... only to those who are idiots or come looking for tech support.
As far as charging per post.. I never said to make this a pay site... but more a sign of good faith... a way to keep out the trolls.. The mods can only do so much.. and APs are becoming useless.. take for example quad's SBG persona... It shouldn't have made it through the first week.. but because it's quad and he has friends in high places.. he's stuck around... everytime you neg him someone balances him back because they like him.. If he had to pay a buck everytime he got banned. he wouldn't keep coming back to cause trouble.. .. That's why I think this is a viable solution.
Peace,
HT
Yeah, like I said I didn't know much about that and I didn't wanna go looking for the whole big issue either. Thanks pwaring for finding out the information, I was just a little confused about it. As for the copyright, I see it at the bottom of the page. Don't you?Quote:
Looking at the license agreement, I can't see any rules that prohibit charging members for access to a site powered by vBulletin.
I got a thinking about this, and i was thinking that maybe if JupMedia enabled it so that those that would like to contribute to the site with donation of a certain amount, then those members that contribute should recieve added site benifit's for instance a new forum that only contributors could post in.
Maybe some sort of added benifit like a Irc channel or something..
Just something unique that way there's an incentive to make a donation as you know that your going to get something in return..
And maybe they could get rid of those ugly banners for the contributers.
Sorry if this don't make no sense, but i'm extremely Hung Over and my Brain is still warming up..
cheers big ears
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Hmm... That is a good idea... Like a paypal donation thingy somewhere like a lot of free software developers have, and then the people who do that have access to the IRC channel... That would be really awesome, the return of the IRC without trolls and various other dumbasses.
How goes this exactly eliminate trolls and "other desirables" if they have money too?
Personally, I don't like the idea and have strong doubts as to how well it will fly. We have many users who come here as students. I don't know if many of you remember student life but it's a rather poor existence these days. Some of these do contribute a lot to the site. I think that this would be far more detrimental to the site than beneficial.
I would pay if I had to, but I'd dead against the idea. FFS, I've got £20 to last me for the next maybe 2 weeks. I can ask my parents for cash if I really need it, but I don't want to. And I'm one of the better off students.
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