VbFavre69's Bible Part I

by the way i love this forum..
i post 5 months of work and i get negged and flamed cause the disclaimer isnt upto all of your standards.. BAH

p.s those who think im nuts im sure you can understand why i am a bit pissed off

Don't take anyone's opinions here personally. This section of AO is always critiqued very vigorously, and it's pretty typical for each tutorial submitted to be picked apart to the point of hair-splitting. Just keep posting whatever you have to contribute and don't worry about it.

I was going to stay out of this...... But you know me..... :rolleyes:

I have followed this thread and read the tutorial.

Firstly, the disclaimer.... Get over it kids.... You see them everywhere and depending upon the quality and jurisdiction they are either worthless or valid. I don't even bother reading them in the first place. It's really easy to skip over them.

Secondly, the tutorial. Clearly a lot of time and effort went into it. It is certainly a nice little reference for many subjects. Furthermore, since it was written by a 16 year old, (you're 17 now I know), I think it deserves yet more accolade. It was concise, it was clear, it contained sufficient information on each topic to be of some use, it stated that there was plenty more to each subject and it is only part 1 of a series. VB, you did a darned fine job.

Lastly..... VB, I can't feel right giving you pos AP's for it but I won't give you negs either because they aren't appropriate. Why not? I find much of the criticism of the content, (never mind the disclaimer), to be somewhat valid. Much of it is dated. But that's ok too because many of the things you mention are viable attacks on an improperly configured server. What did get up my nose was your personal statement/attitudes that slipped in there. I really don't give a rats ass whether you think defacing web pages is ok or not. Your subsequent attempt at ethics, (don't go on a delete spree), was lame to say the least. In any case you just placed yourself in the category of common criminal. You managed to "leak" in other pieces of personal philosophy/ethics, (or lack of), in other places. When you write a tutorial to be placed out there for the consumption of professionals then the tutorial should be done in a professional manner and judgements like the ones you put in this tutorial had no place there.

That having been said.... Well done on a well thought out and produced tutorial. I look forward to reading the other parts assuming you take the time to edit out the judgements...... ;)

To add to Tiger's comment, which I think is right on the money, you have to keep in mind that you are being reviewed by industry professionals, so that's why the critiquing is so vigorous. You're looking at it from a 16/17-year-old's point of view as a student, whereas we're looking at it from the point of view of "What could this mean for my business?"

So that's why I say take it all in stride. Indeed, it does look like you put a considerable amount of effort into it.

I haven't read it yet, but my little advice before I read it :

Don't post something in a public place if you cannot take the criticism that follows it.

Ok off to read the tutorial now.

ive read half of the tut and LIKed IT. Not enough to a greenie, but it doesnt deserve negative AP.
Some guys are stickied on disclaimer (1/100 of document?) and arent reading the document.
Ok, its not the best of bread, but c'mon: you have greenie **** tutorial here because it was wrote by a Senior member.

If you want that he accepts criticism, please accept this.
IMHO: neutral. But negative ap? never.

vbfavre69, pridikal - Welcome to AntiOnline. No matter what you post. No matter how good the content. They'll find some reason to use there faggot-ass antipoints. Way to go jerks. You WILL run AO into the ground doing **** like this. And once you do, I'm getting drunk and celebrating.