Could my ISP be upto something...

You need to drop your little supreme being attitude. Nihil isnt the only one who took your ap's. I'd take more if system would let. You arrogant little ****. just because you ask a question doesnt entitle you to an automatic answer. The first thing we are going to do is verify your intentions. Look at anyother thread asking suspicious questions. They recieved the same treatment. You shot yourself in the foot when youi made your little comment about the spider you had written and were planning on masss mailing all of your ISP's customers. If you had kept that to yourself we might have been a little morehelpfull but instead you set off our "skiddie radar". So if you'r going to continue to act like a bitch I am going to be forced to continue to treat you like one. And as far as any violations of your rights you have the right to remain a jackass but be prepared for the backlash.

ZomBie~

Shame on you! :eek:

I really don't know why I fired the APs at him........rather like using 105mm HESH against Chobham armour?

That guy does not have a skull..............he has a glacis plate.

However, I was not allowed to fire any APs at you, so I thought I would go to the AO shop and get you a LART for Christmas.

You know, a LART.................. Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool

Recent reports from Langley have it that baseball bats are popular? Otherwise I will have to use my Syrian contacts and get you a second hand WMD ;) ............well, where do you think they all went to?

I have had a couple of "love letters" from himself...............I will let the cat reply ;)

please look at the attachment...............

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Originally posted here by Neptune0z
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I just started an account with this ISP about a month ago, and for the first 2 weeks had no problem forging packets. Then about two weeks ago they begain using egress filtering, which totally stopped my ability to spoof from their network (Although I still can using VPN to another one).
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If you can VPN out into your work account to conduct your security audits, what is the issue?

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I know that my ISP has me using a different router/gatway configuration then everyone else on their network.

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Umm, so what?

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Personally, I think there sensors picked up on some of the non-standard/spoofed traffic I was sending, and they then classified me as a potential hacker, and stuck me on a different segment then everone else where they could monitor my connections and prevent me from interacting with the internal network. Wouldnt this be discrimination?

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Yes, it would be discrimination. Discrimination itself is not a crime you know, it's sensible in a lot of cases. It's when it is misapplied that it becomes an issue. If you can work from your VPN connection, what's the problem?

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Originally posted here by Neptune0z
There's always another ISP out there to use though. I pay for my service and as a customer there's various things I expect from them as a business. An attempt to tag me so that my
surfing habits are not anonymous is totally unacceptable and I would gladly lose my account to let others know.

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News flash, the Internet is a vast PUBLIC network. If I'm a cab driver it's silly to expect me to try and drive you somewhere and still not know where your source and destination points are.

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The internet was founded on anonimity.

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No, it wasn't. It was founded by the U.S. Department of Defense in order to decentralize all their research efforts and make it "nuke proof". The Internet and anonymity have nothing to do with one another really, except that misguided individuals think they somehow are anonymous online.
In short, yes, your ISP probably logged you as a potential threat, and yes, they likely did something with your connection. Contact them about it, explain the situation with references about your company, OR simply drop it and use your VPN connection for all your work.

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Originally posted here by Cybr1d
Somehow I think that you just downloaded something like Retina or SSS and are screwing around with them....you're using a proxy because you think somehow its gonna trace back to you...You did too many audits in your network so your ISP is getting suspicious and now you're blaming them?

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If he can VPN somewhere, the proxies are irrelevant. Who cares what your opinion of the guy is, why not just answer his question?

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Originally posted here by CybertecOne
When you got really defensive about us not answering your question;

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There's a difference between not answering the question and the slew of idiotic assumptions that have been made. If there'd be a whole lot of not answering the post at all, there wouldn't be any "defensiveness" now would there?

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that set off my defenses and it just seemed to me you really are upto malicious purposes and that you were lying to us. i mean, we are taking exactly the same stace as your ISP, so maybe you really are the one at fault here... sorry but it just looks that way.

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Umm, I'll keep that in mind next time I see you ask a question about anything. If it's remotely suspicious I'll break into a similar song and dance about your intentions, because I obviously KNOW, right? Suspicion is good, but don't kid yourself into thinking that's what's going on here. What is going on here is group thinking.

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Originally posted here by JoeMacDaddy
Most ISPs will not monitor and redirect your traffic unless they are ordered to by law enforcement for the collection of evidence.

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Ssshhh, don't tell people here that, you'll get yelled at. ;)

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Originally posted here by ZomBieMann77
just because you ask a question doesnt entitle you to an automatic answer.

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Indeed, however it also shouldn't mean he should be subjected to other people's idiotic namecalling and derision now does it? Another good example of the herd mentality going on here. If you don't like the way he words the questions, don't respond.

Well Mr Godall high and mighty Chris Shepherd, I have a little bit of news for you:

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Umm, I'll keep that in mind next time I see you ask a question about anything. If it's remotely suspicious I'll break into a similar song and dance about your intentions, because I obviously KNOW, right? Suspicion is good, but don't kid yourself into thinking that's what's going on here. What is going on here is group thinking.

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Yes, AO is actually a COMMUNITY, and communities frequently have group thoughts: here is a new word for you:

"DEMOCRACY"

Google for it, you just might learn something :p

Also consider concepts such as "two minds are greater than one", "peer group analysis" and so on............

I have tolerated your particular arrogance for some time now, on this occasion I feel disinclined to do so.

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted here by Neptune0z
I know whats what and who's who now

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Oh no you dont :D

Actually, what is going on is kind of retarded. It may be a community but you have no way of verifying whether my own intentions are good, your friends, or the noobs. You're just hoping you're fed an acceptable and believable line of bullshit before giving out any kind of information.

You can choose to answer questions, not answer, or give enough guidance for the person in question to answer their own question. The witch hunt stuff is just stupid...

AO is not a democracy. You don't have rights here, the power to vote for change, etc. You only have the power that Jupiter Media gives you while living by their code of conduct, terms of service, etc.

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AO is not a democracy. You don't have rights here, the power to vote for change, etc. You only have the power that Jupiter Media gives you while living by their code of conduct, terms of service, etc.

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Exactly what the original question was about........... the guy has a contract with an ISP and seems p1$$ed off that they are implementing it?

I will speculate a bit more, if I may?............. I think that he opened a private account and has been using it for commercial purposes?........... from his attitude it is obvious that he has no respect for AUPs

That's my view anyways

EDIT: I guess I am talking about a "parliamentary democracy" or the like.

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If he can VPN somewhere, the proxies are irrelevant. Who cares what your opinion of the guy is, why not just answer his question?

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If your uptight little ass could have spent a little more time on reading my post instead of being a jackass about it, you might have very well noticed the point behind it, and the questions at the end of it.

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Indeed, however it also shouldn't mean he should be subjected to other people's idiotic namecalling and derision now does it? Another good example of the herd mentality going on here. If you don't like the way he words the questions, don't respond.

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Sure it does...u act like an idiot, u get called an idiot. I'm not saying that he was acting like an idiot....but if he sounds like a skiddie, he will be called a skiddie....capiche?

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If you don't like the way he words the questions, don't respond.

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dito.....if you dont like the way we worded our posts -i.e. finding them a waste of space, then maybe you shouldn't respond neither? don't u think? Sorry but I didn't know u were in charge of letting people know when their posts are a waste of space...dickhead.

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Originally posted here by nihil
Yes, AO is actually a COMMUNITY, and communities frequently have group thoughts: here is a new word for you:
"DEMOCRACY"
Google for it, you just might learn something :p

Also consider concepts such as "two minds are greater than one", "peer group analysis" and so on............

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Ask any cop or security guard who's done crowd control (or someone whose profession is researching group or crowd dynamics), they'll tell you that when applied to the right thing, those statements are true, however in many cases the inverse is true. Crowds behave on a lowest common denominator level, which is what is happening here. It's like a shark feeding frenzy, and it's utter garbage..

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I have tolerated your particular arrogance for some time now, on this occasion I feel disinclined to do so.

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It's arrogant to suggest that the knee-jerk assumptions going on here are probably not the best course of action, and the people involved probably need to have it pointed out to them to see what they're doing?
My turn! :rolleyes:

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Originally posted here by Cybr1d
If your uptight little ass could have spent a little more time on reading my post instead of being a jackass about it, you might have very well noticed the point behind it, and the questions at the end of it.

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I read your post, which is why I responded as I did. It seems that you failed to understand my response, which is understandable I suppose, given the way you generally tend to post.

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Sure it does...u act like an idiot, u get called an idiot. I'm not saying that he was acting like an idiot....but if he sounds like a skiddie, he will be called a skiddie....capiche?

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Oh, I understand the idiocy of the idea of "if he sounds like a skiddie, he will be called a skiddie", doesn't mean I have to agree with it, what with this being some form of "democracy" (snicker).

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dito.....if you dont like the way we worded our posts -i.e. finding them a waste of space, then maybe you shouldn't respond neither?

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Now, see here's the irony. You'd rather you just get to unabatedly flame whoever you like? Cool, next time I'll just report your posts and be done with it. Maybe you guys will get banned for just making these assumptions.

My hope was that perhaps you might open your eyes to what is going on, and perhaps had read MsMittens' comments on Full Disclosure on AO. Your statements in this thread are the exact elitism and garbage knee-jerk reaction she commented on. I happen to agree with her view of things, so I'm calling you on it.

It's sad that so many namecalling instead of responding to my actual point.

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My hope was that perhaps you might open your eyes to what is going on, and perhaps had read MsMittens' comments on Full Disclosure on AO. Your statements in this thread are the exact elitism and garbage knee-jerk reaction she commented on. I happen to agree with her view of things, so I'm calling you on it.

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Errr...what elitism? The fact that I say it the way I see it...without worrying about being nice just so it pleases the few morons like yourself that hang around here? **** that...and **** you. If you don't like it...you're welcome to comment on it, but don't be surprised when I have a comment right back at you.

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I read your post, which is why I responded as I did. It seems that you failed to understand my response, which is understandable I suppose, given the way you generally tend to post.

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You read my post..but you didn't understand jack **** and you missed the whole point because you're simply a moron. As you were reading my post, being the moron that you are, you immediately jumped on the reply button dying to add something moronic to this thread.

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Cool, next time I'll just report your posts and be done with it. Maybe you guys will get banned for just making these assumptions.

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Thats fine with me...report it all you want...it just shows what a moron you are. Make sure you report this one too. Maybe you should get banned for being a deuchebag? The problem with elitist jackasses like yourself is that you try think there's somehow a "good side" and a "bad side" to AO, and you just happen to fall on the "good side"....say it aint so?