SUSE shoots, SCORES!

Well... I was bored so I went ahead and started my install of SUSE.. I will probably have to reinstall after christmas, but oh well... Everything seems to be going fine... I'm installing the 9.1 pro I got from the Novell free thingy... DVD is GREAT! I don't have to sit and fiddle with it... I couldn't do the updates with YAST cuz of my net connection (dial up, no drivers for modem default) which sucked... I will end up having to find some way to burn em to a cd and then install them... How hard would it be to get all the updates installed by hand off a cd or something of the like?

See.... This is the kind of thing that bothers me..... I have a limited amount of time to devote to SUSE but I'm trying and I'm not utterly unimpressed but.....

I just used YaST to install ClamAV..... Should all be pretty simple.... and it went just that way.... Not a hitch, it did it's stuff and ended nicely.....

Now where the _hell_ is ClamAV.... This is ridiculous.... I spend the time to install a product and it takes longer searching throught the menu system looking for where on earth it put it only to find there is no reference to it whatsoever than it did to install the darned thing..... Of course, being the skilled and adept sysadmin I am, and being logged in as root because i am getting fed up of typing my frigging password in for every last thing I want to accomplish I open a shell and type "clamav".... or should it be "Clamav", or should it be ClamAv", or should it be "ClamAV"...... Funnily enough "clamfrigginav" doesn't work either...... Or, knowing the twisted logic of *nix should I now log out as root and log in as a lowly user because ClamAV won't run for an admin unless he issues a chmod or a chown or some other command that the install doesn't tell you about..... :rolleyes:

I am beginning to see a little bit of a trend though.... *nix is for people who have an abundance of time....

Why can't it have a simple list of installed programs that I can easily locate and execute?

Gore: Two things.... I tried installing linux some 10 years ago as a web server.... Following the "destructions" exactly the load would blow itself up during configuration every time... After 10 days of trying I gave up on it....

Secondly, were I to drive to your place and have you "set it up for me" how the hell am I supposed to learn this silly OS????

I guess that's.... er..... [/Rant].... ;)

Simple really, hand holding is for your lover, I'll only guide you. What I meant with setting it up for you:

I would do the installation from my DVDs for you and show you how the custom installation works and then show you how to use the applications. Then I would work with you and help you understand it in another way. I don't have a lot of time but I've managed to figure it out. You know how? I ****ed up an install of Free BSD once and it took all my partitions out, and I had nothnig else I could use for a while.

And sharky:

Go to yAST, go to Run Level Editor which is in one of the menus, and click on advanced, and then click on CalmAV and click on it to start in Run Level 3 and 5, then finish. Then you dont' have to start it, it will start on it's own every time you boot.

Linux has always been the OS for "patience". 10 Years ago eh? Damn Linux is very different now. Amazingly enought it copies the look and feel of windows with the enterprise versions where there are clones for almost everything.

Gore: Thanks.... That's another little "Mystery" solved...

I have a great idea for a Tutorial for you that would be of real use to me and maybe others..... Write something that explains the "equivalencies" between Win2k/XP and Linux. For example when I istall something it gets put in "program files"/appdir in win.... Where does it go in Linux? In windows when I want to start or stop a service I go to Services MMC, computer-properties- services etc. Where do I go in Linux. If i want to see running process and CPU usage I go to Task Manager via CTRL/ALT/DEL or whatever..... How would I do it in Linux....

That's the kind of thing I really need.... I know _what_ I want/need to do..... I just don't know how to accomplish the basic tasks. Wanna give it a go?

gore, I will consider you a god among men if you pull that kind of tut off. Ive asked my professors before and none can come up with -good- answers. then again theyn were all windows users trying to teach *nix

I'll think about it ;)

For now:

For things running on the system and info:

type top

in the Shell obviously

and then for services:

YAST2 play in there until you see something called "Run Level editor" and then click on that, after it loads, go to advanced at the top of the application, then from there, you have a bunch to shut down or turn on.

READ MY TUTORIAL CALLED SUSE BASICS!!! It tells you ones you can safely shut down and what to be sure you don't shut down.

Gore:

Top.... That's one of the gazillion things I was looking for.... Nice.... Silly question.... How the hell was anyone supposed to guess that "top" would be the command to "Show Running Processes/Tasks"???? ;) (just giving you a hard time)

TasksOrProcesses ;) Be creative

I did get creative.... I tried...

tasks
Tasks
processes
Processes
task manager
Task Manager
process manager
Process Manager
tasklist
TaskList
processlist
ProcessList
t
T
p
P
tm
TM
pm
PM
tl
TL
pl
PL
wtfaittl (where the foxx is the task list)
IGU (I give up)
hint
/hint
clue
/clue
noclue
screwed
dammit
stupid OS
illogical

Just _how_ creative do I have to be? ;)