You have the wrong direction. Nazi's are godless socialists. Ask Hitler. That would make them on the left. :D
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You have the wrong direction. Nazi's are godless socialists. Ask Hitler. That would make them on the left. :D
I like Americans and Canadians :) I would love to visit both countries
I once took a rode trip to canada, and when stopped at the border I was asked where I lived, I responded "hawaii" and not only did the guy at the border ask me if I drove from hawaii, but he asked me for a passport...
I see my northern neighbors as "like an American, but without a gun" (kids in the hall)
but really, I've only been twice, and both times it was so wonderful :)
"De Oppreso Liber"Quote:
Originally posted here by morganlefay
I do have issues with your current administration and the extreme right almost nazi-ish overtones
Liberator of the Oppressed
From what I read, these overtones are quite common throughout liberal earth. But at the end of the day, ignorance will be spoken and facts will be overlooked. In the past two and a half years, 50 million men, women, and children have been liberated from two of the most brutal regimes on earth. Whether any of you like it or not, it's going to be printed in authentic history books.
So how many people has good ole' Canada liberated in the past 50 years? I can read a long list that we have. ;)
I don’t know what is worse, watching people get treatment by brutal dictators and regimes, or bitching about it and trying to block someone who is going to stop it? Saddam had more bodyguards than we thought!
Here, I guess, are some more "nazi-ish" type things our administration has been up to.
(Fact sheet)
-- The President has proposed $15 billion over five years to combat HIV/AIDS abroad, which increasingly affects women.
-- In 2002, President Bush initiated a $500 million International Mother and Child HIV Prevention Initiative.
-- The Millennium Challenge Account will provide $5 billion to countries that govern justly, invest in their people and promote economic growth, with a particular emphasis on the treatment of women and children.
-- President Bush has proposed over $150 million over two years to combat worldwide trafficking in persons, predominantly women and children forced into sexual slavery.
-- To date, the President's Middle East Partnership Initiative has committed $129 million to programs supporting economic, political, and educational reform efforts in the Middle East and champion opportunity for all people of the region, especially women and youth.
-- $9 million has been spent to support African women refugees.
IRAQ
As the Iraqi people reclaim freedom, the United States is supporting them. The systematic use of rape by Saddam Hussein's regime to dishonor families has ended, and Iraqis of all ethnic and religious groups are participating in rebuilding their country.
-- In November, President Bush met with Iraqi leaders in the Oval Office to discuss women's roles in Iraq's future.
-- Three women on the Iraqi Governing Council were instrumental in drafting the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL).
-- The TAL makes it illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender, ethnicity, or religion; and guarantees all Iraqis the right to vote.
-- This week, the Administration announced two new programs for Iraqi women -- the $10 million Iraqi Women's Democracy Initiative and the U.S.-Iraq Women's Network.
-- The United States supported the travel of Iraqi women to the UN Commission on the Status of Women in New York, March 1-12, 2004.
-- Six Iraqi women are participating in the Fulbright Program, which was restored in Iraq in January.
-- The United States is rehabilitating and equipping 11 regional women's centers in Iraq. We are renovating and equipping 9 women's centers in Baghdad; the first opened on March 8, 2004.
AFGHANISTAN
Afghan women are preparing to vote in free elections, having participated in the drafting of a new constitution and taking on key responsibilities in liberated Afghanistan. Under the ruthless grip of the Taliban regime, Afghan girls were barred from getting an education, women were banned from holding jobs, and women were publicly whipped when they did not follow the Taliban's rules. Afghan women are now being integrated into the economic, social and political lives of their liberated country.
-- Female doctors are back at work, as are other professional women. All are contributing to modernize their country's medical system. Under the Taliban, male doctors were prohibited from treating women.
-- The U.S.-Afghan Women's Council provides education exchange programs between Afghan ministries and U.S. agencies, academic exchanges, and professional enrichment opportunities.
-- The United States rehabilitated the Ministry of Women's Affairs building and created the first women's resource center for job training.
-- Afghanistan's new constitution affords equal rights to all Afghan citizens, including the right for women to vote in elections scheduled for later this year.
-- The United States is providing $2.5 million to build 14 women's centers, and each location will have audiovisual equipment, computers, libraries, and a daycare center. Centers are providing vocational training for women.
-- Reclaiming their human dignity is important to Afghanistan's women, and with U.S. Government funding, war widows are revitalizing handicraft industries. One effort encourages carpet vendors to employ women who graduate from training courses. War widows are employed in bakeries that provided bread to about 250,000 urban poor in 2002.
-- The Afghan constitution provided rights to women and the loya jirga had a substantial representation of women.
TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS
President Bush is advancing the fight against trafficking in persons, which is a modern day form of slavery. Each year approximately 800,000 to 900,000 people, primarily women and children, are trafficked around the world, including thousands into the United States.
-- In his speech to the United Nations General Assembly last September, President Bush said: "[H]uman beings are bought, sold or forced across the world's borders. Among them are hundreds of thousands of teenage girls, and others as young as five, who fall victim to the sex trade. This commerce in human life generates billions of dollars each year -- much of which is used to finance organized crime." (*cough* Greece, Spain etc...)
-- To combat sex trafficking, the President announced an initiative of an additional $50 million to support the good work of organizations that are rescuing women and children from exploitation.
-- The United States Department of State publishes an annual report on trafficking in persons and based on the findings, works with countries to help them combat trafficking in persons.
-- The Justice Department is aggressively investigating and prosecuting human trafficking. In FY 2001 to FY 2003, the Justice Department opened 210 new investigations, which is more than double the number opened in the previous three final years. In FY 2001 to FY 2003, the department prosecuted 110 traffickers, which is nearly a three-fold increase compared to the previous fiscal years.
(end fact sheet)
SOURCE: http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/wwwhwashnews1479.html
"De Oppreso Liber"
Liberator of the Oppressed
Some facts about Canada...
1. Concerning war:
since confederation we've been in three official wars...the boar war in africa 1900 no Americans came
world war 1 1914 americans didn't even show up till 1917
world war 2 1939 americans protested against the war right up till pearl harbor
been involved in one police action the korean war
and thousands of Canadians volunteered and died in vietnam wearing US fatigues
we rescued the US diplomats in Iran
we participated in the first war against Iraq
we have been in Afghanistan since 9/11 and have even had our people killed by US aircraft
the fact that most Canadians do not associate 9/11 with Iraq, and consider it more or less the unfinished business his daddy started, and a power move against the UN's wishes does not negate the fact that Canada has stood by the Americans more so than they have stood by us
2. do we benefit from having the US as our neighbors for our protection or does the US need us more...consider if any other nation resided here would America have enjoyed 137 years of peace and prosperity...or how about another competing nucular power, even a friendly one...I wonder who really benefits more
3. most Canadians love Americans but we love them like an annoying older brother...who tries to push you around and take advantage of you...we love you and we wouldn't want to live without you but that doesn't mean we always like you..cause sometimes you can really be a pain in the ass !!!!
:D
A couple of things I forgot to mention...we still have troops in Bosnia and up till 1965 we were considered one of the world's elite fighting forces...just ask any veteran of World War 2.
but we never had an official military of our own till 1944 ( or there abouts ) , before then we fought under the british crown in Canadian regiments.
I realize among a few Americans there is resentment for Canada's stand for taking the side of the UN this time around...but unlike Afghanistan after 9/11, most Canadians don't see the point of going after Iraq again after it was proven the first time that the desert snake had no teeth.
If this was a full scale assault against the snake with teeth ( OBL ) Canada would definitely had gone. Bush's mistake was not committing the full resourses that he committed to in Iraq to hunting down OBL...personally, I think he ought to forget about Iraq turn the troops around and send them to Afghanistan...and if OBL isn't there he's probably home in Saudi Arabia in some palace watching CNN and it wouldn't surprise me if he's been there the whole time and takes the cave shots from a basement studio to make him look like he's out there in the desert caves...or at least that's the deception I would devise if I had 350 million dollars and a palace..I sure as **** wouldn't be living in a cave...I'd be sippin' rum & cokes with my feet up by the pool making everyone think I'm livin' in a cave miles away. :D
Egaladeist,
If I thought Saddam would have spent the next 4 decades NOT plotting an attack in retaliation for "daddy’s" war, where Iraq took over a smaller country and dropped bombs on civil communities, attacking Israel repeatedly, then I would agree with you. As it stands, I don't share that point of view and the UN no longer had any precedence over his military secrecies. Even Saddam himself said he planned to start the old war machine once pressure was lifted. So unlike the United Nations and unlike my grandparents in WW1 and WW2, we struck first and didn’t wait for the next attack planned and eventually carried out by those in power who have abandoned political outlets for their rage. And this AFTER 10 years of negotiation. My conscience is clean with that.
Canada and most of Europe see a different perspective. In some cases I wonder if they ignore evidence of severe corruption within the United Nations and also the time frame where Saddam was given both a final ultimatum and time to carry it out if he desired before the U.S. rolled into town. He flipped the U.S. and the United Nations a proverbial political middle finger.
I never fully understood the major outcry considering the documented and known history of Iraq and it's rulling Bath Party. But there have been several events that lead me to form my own opinion. Even socialist Europe sees it’s opportunity for profit and political maneuvering when it comes about.
New Years Eve I caught Chris Rock in a comedy specail..
And he summed it up really well. (quote may not be exact....I had consumed a fair amount of wine)
"Why the rest of the world hates America
Its the hypocrisy of our democracy"
Well said!!!
MLF
RoadClosed I'm not saying that I disagree with the US's decision to go in and finish the job...I admire the US's political and military policy regarding other nations.
What many people forget in evaluating US policy is that ( as far as empire's go...and the US is this age's empire ) it has been the only empire that has ever existed in the history of man that is not colonialistic in nature. Egypt, rome, the ottoman turks, the mongols, france, the soviet union, england, germany, spain, etc...have all ( during their reigns as empires ) kept and colonized the lands they conquered. Whereas the US has always followed a policy of self-government. And for that they should be commended !!!
Also I am a charity co-ordinator and I know americans are the most generous of all...giving an average of 1.4 % of their pre-tax income...compared to .74 % for canadians...and .45 % for brits...americans have alot to be proud of.
What I am saying is ...
1. americans know very little about our history especially when it comes to war...many times we have followed americans and brits into war...not once, not in the boar war or both "world wars" did america follow us...who do you think really has the right to bitch?
2. at first bush tried to associate Iraq with 9/11...we went to Afghanistan and we're still there...but no one but him saw the connection with Iraq...his first mistake
3. bush went to the UN...mistake number two...he should have just invaded...and the UN would have either supported it or been less critical of it...but by going to the UN first he was obliged to follow their recommendations and when he invaded anyways the UN had no choice but to condemn the action or end up with egg on their face...he basically caused his own backlash by trying to play the UN card
We have been your neighbors for 137 years, we share the world's longest undefended border, we are America's largest trading partner, we've existed in peace for as long as Canada has existed as a nation, don't you think it's about time you actually learned something about us?
:D