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sounds like lazy lazy admin(s). we got them everywhere.
can't be arsed to do the job properly - so they just setup a half-assed job, patch it and forget about it.
those types of admins are a crackers best friend. you just scope them out and their systems and then go "shopping in a candy store" so to speak.
don't say anything.
:-)
Jebo:
You are proving yourself to be a complete and utter idiot....
This is not a piss-ass little script kiddie site. I just negged you so I can't neg you again for your dumbass, unethical attitude... Wish that I could...Quote:
you just scope them out and their systems and then go "shopping in a candy store" so to speak.
Ladies and gentlemen:
This is a "BAM"
I love cooking....
BAM
There you go Tiger ;)
MLF
Squee-San No you do say something like BAM BAM-BAM!Quote:
I felt sorry for him earlier. After reading a couple of his posts, that feeling disappeared. So with that said... nice post! /insert smiley with big grin and thums up.Quote:
Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
Jebo:
You are proving yourself to be a complete and utter idiot....
This is not a piss-ass little script kiddie site. I just negged you so I can't neg you again for your dumbass, unethical attitude... Wish that I could...
yikes. it's just not my day in popularityville.Quote:
Originally posted here by Tiger Shark
Jebo:
You are proving yourself to be a complete and utter idiot....
This is not a piss-ass little script kiddie site. I just negged you so I can't neg you again for your dumbass, unethical attitude... Wish that I could...
Ladies and gentlemen:
This is a "BAM"
I love cooking....
it's not about script kiddies - it's about, "if you are incompetent - why should *I* help *YOU"!. i don't believe in "us techs stick together"! i believe in "everyone pulls their own weight". too many tech's these days don't give a cr@p and just prefer coasting for their pay cheque. you have equipment and users you are responsible for - learn to keep on your toes and secure & maintain it properly. you have eyes. you have a brain. use it!
if you are not very organized. learn to *become* organized. you want a helpful post - here:
best security advice I picked up in last 5 years was,
The security manager's daily checklist and the accompanying matrix
modify it to your own environment and use it!
if you jump in and keep helping them along - they will always expect another tech to come by and keep helping them.
If this is your position, then why this?Quote:
it's not about script kiddies - it's about, "if you are incompetent - why should *I* help *YOU"!. i don't believe in "us techs stick together"! i believe in "everyone pulls their own weight". too many tech's these days don't give a cr@p and just prefer coasting for their pay cheque. you have equipment and users you are responsible for - learn to keep on your toes and secure & maintain it properly. you have eyes. you have a brain. use it!
Perception is reality. I think you should learn to communicate a little better before posting. Start there and then worry about bad admins. While I didn't "BAM" you this time, if you continue to annoy us with posts like this, I will deliver a special one just for you.Quote:
you just scope them out and their systems and then go "shopping in a candy store" so to speak.
don't say anything.
:-)
--TH13
Well, I am not going to BAM him for two reasons:
1) It is very entertaining reading the responses his posts generate ;)
2) I think what we have here is a disgruntled employee ... Maybe someone who thinks they deserve more recognition or a promotion which they did not receive. They are burned out and sour on life.
To the second, all I can suggest is find contentment in doing your job the best you can.
Nobody is saying you have to help everybody, only those who you can, when you can, and when they are willing to listen. With the right attitude you can turn those “ lazy “ admins around and inspire them ( or shame them ) into productive aggressive workers.
Helping people ( but not necessarily sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong, you’ll have to learn the difference ) not only helps them but can help you. It helps you learn, makes your job easier, and can earn you respect from your peers. Some day one of those people you left hanging because you felt they were incompetent may be your boss.
Wouldn’t it be nice if they had respect for you?
good post. and you are absolutely right - i am pretty disgruntled and not very happy with how IT is progressing. too many business suits/sales guys infiltrating IT who think you don't have to know that much about IT to do IT anymore. nuff said!Quote:
Originally posted here by IKnowNot
Well, I am not going to BAM him for two reasons:
1) It is very entertaining reading the responses his posts generate ;)
2) I think what we have here is a disgruntled employee ... Maybe someone who thinks they deserve more recognition or a promotion which they did not receive. They are burned out and sour on life.
To the second, all I can suggest is find contentment in doing your job the best you can.
Nobody is saying you have to help everybody, only those who you can, when you can, and when they are willing to listen. With the right attitude you can turn those “ lazy “ admins around and inspire them ( or shame them ) into productive aggressive workers.
Helping people ( but not necessarily sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong, you’ll have to learn the difference ) not only helps them but can help you. It helps you learn, makes your job easier, and can earn you respect from your peers. Some day one of those people you left hanging because you felt they were incompetent may be your boss.
Wouldn’t it be nice if they had respect for you?
back on topic. i am very shocked at the reponses as well.
I will go out of my way to help another IT guy if I see the following:
a) - if he/she asks for help. re: security matters - i don't scan other peoples networks for holes! we have a very capable security dept. whos job it is to do that for the whole campus, and they do a great job doing it.
b) - a real genuine problem that is worth my time. not something that can be solved by looking at the first page results of a google search or by reading the FAQ of the manual.
c) - i will be even more willing and available if I see that the person made a genuine effort to solve the problem on his/her own. if they actually detail what they did so far and how they have come up short. posting a question on a forum and waiting for people to respond does not count as an effort.
i can see how you can interpret that from my post. i got to learn to use smileys more often. i think i may have meant it in a sarcastic manner when I posted it.Quote:
Originally posted here by thehorse13
If this is your position, then why this?
Perception is reality. I think you should learn to communicate a little better before posting. Start there and then worry about bad admins. While I didn't "BAM" you this time, if you continue to annoy us with posts like this, I will deliver a special one just for you.
--TH13