Gore, old chap.................
I am arguing that we are denying possible relief?.................we NEED the research?..............why was it treated as a pharmaceutical in the past?
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Gore, old chap.................
I am arguing that we are denying possible relief?.................we NEED the research?..............why was it treated as a pharmaceutical in the past?
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It's all about control of the population................The only reason the Uk invoked, limited, opening hours in pubs, was to stop workers, in munitions factories, being incapable or under parr (in their work). Since the end of the war there has been no nead for the back against the wall attidude, that was neaded at the time.
With narcotics, I believe the same is true. There is already a wealth of data to suggest that the likes of blow, have real medical benifits. The only reason I can see for the research that is being carried out at the moment, is the fear of the Government, of what is already a popular drug being espoused as benifitial. Which would mean the pro drug lobby has more of a case for general legalization.
I believe, that it is widely acknowledged that free thinking is only acceptabe within pre defined terms. Thinking beyond those terms leads to a danger to society. As drug taking is the passtime of free thinkers, it must be a danger to society.
One of the difficulties in getting laws passed or revoked in any democracy is that it generally isn't the people who truly have a say, it is a small hardcore group who weild the power. In capatalist society, this generally means whoever has lots of money. Thus a minority group with minority views ends up being a virtual majority.
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That may be partly true, especially where business and money is concerned, but withQuote:
One of the difficulties in getting laws passed or revoked in any democracy is that it generally isn't the people who truly have a say
drugs, I'd bet it's the majority that's anti-dope, where many gov't officials may hold
surprisingly permissive views, but are afraid to go against the superstitions of the
voters.
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Interesting question...Quote:
Originally posted here by zENGER
Can't please everyone. I think their biggest fear is, if you legalize it, where does it stop? Next theres going to be a cocaine lobbiest wanting it made legal, and heroine. Well you let weed be legal so we want this legal too. Stirs up a big pot.
Cocaine is legal in the US for perscription already.
Heroin is legal for addicts and perscriptions in Switzerland and the UK respectively. (Though morphine is legal in the US.)
cheers,
catch
Hi zENGER,
Where does it stop?
There are thousands of prescription drugs that have, for years, been un-available any other way...legalizing them as prescription drugs does not open the door for over-the-counter availability...
Eg ;)
Catch is not quite correct there:
Heroin and Cocaine are class "A" drugs in the UK. That means they are banned to all intents and purposes (unless you are a laboratory rat :D )
Like the USA, we use Morphine rather than Heroin, for medical purposes. For the treatment of heroin addicts we use methadone.
We also have a number of "derivative" products that contain drugs such as opium, coedine and also cocaine (you get that at the dentist :eek: )
Cannabis was downgraded to a class "C" drug, and is currently being researched for its medicinal properties.
Apart from the three major illegal drugs (Ecstasy, Heroin & Cocaine) the others are prescription only, and do not seem to be much of an issue over here.
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Heroin isn't a Class A though, for people who are in enough pain that Morphine isn't strong enough they ger Heroin, which is Morphine purified.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh!
Over here they just get a higher dose of morphine ;) "heroin" is an abuse drug (political correctness?) as is cocaine. Our Dunlop Committee (Like your FDA) just give them different names.
I guess they base that on the active ingredients?
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My heart goes out to you Vanman, Lupus took my little sister only a few months ago...and we all wished that cures were published and that better pain medication was available to relieve their suffering.Quote:
Well here is one subject that is of great concern to me because it concerns me and my family..That being said,in short my wife has a terminal illness called SLE(Systemic Lupus Erythamatosis,also known as Lupus or sometimes called “the wolf illness”)There is no cure for it at this stage of the game
[rant]You can say I'm off my nut but...I personally do not trust the drug companies or the researchers that profess to be attempting to find cures for our ailments. After all these years and billions of dollars spent, with all the absolutely brilliant minds we have on this earth, you can never convince me that we do not have CURES! The bottom line is that there is absolutely no money, jobs, or votes in cures! Additionally, anybody been in the hospital lately. How much did that single Acetaminophen tablet cost you? $6 - $8 USD! [/rant]
More on topic: It's use, import, and export can't be controlled anyway. So legalization may not be such a bad option. However do you want the existing drug companies and researchers dictating the price?
cheers