Some of us have it easy

Quote:

---

This is what bothers me... the US doesn't have to be the world police and no one is asking them to...

---

There has to be a world police though... Your going to tell me that there is nothing wrong with not keeping an eye on countries ran by bad people. Just turn the other way when they're making nukes capable of blowing a country off the face of the globe?

Quote:

---

that was just because he wanted to finish what his Father had started... there was no legit reason.

---

Your may be right, but whatever your oppinion is about why he did it, and whatever personal objective bush had for doing it, it still needed to be done. Though I will add that I do not agree with the way it was done, and it should have been done a loooooong time ago...

Quote:

---

yet even as you say that you're turning them around on me and combining them

---

Please forgive me as it's kind of hard to understand what you mean when you just say "america sucks". It's kind of a vague comment :).

Hey Hey,

Quote:

---

Originally posted here by The Duck
There has to be a world police though... Your going to tell me that there is nothing wrong with not keeping an eye on countries ran by bad people. Just turn the other way when they're making nukes capable of blowing a country off the face of the globe?

---

Keeping an eye is one thing, but policing is another... Did you not see the satire in Team America: World Police... It was making fun of that fact... not promoting it. I don't think that we need world police... Countries have always been run by bad people.. the US is run by a bad person.. as far as nukes... big deal... I recall hearing that a lot of the nukes that the US is "so worried" about don't even have the power to reach the US... If two countries want to go to war over there and nuke eachother out of existance... let them... that's there problem... I'd rather not see it happen but I don't think the US has to get involved... Then they complain about being attacked... If the US wants to play World Police.... as long as they aren't constantly undermining the UN... go for it... but don't cry foul when you take backlash from the "policing" efforts.

Quote:

---

Your may be right, but whatever your oppinion is about why he did it, and whatever personal objective bush had for doing it, it still needed to be done. Though I will add that I do not agree with the way it was done, and it should have been done a loooooong time ago...

---

I don't know if it "needed" to be done... as I said.. it was the responsibility of the Iraqi people to remove a tyrant.... and they could have if they really wanted to (as I've said before... the choice was there).... I also don't know if this is the best method for the removal.. With all the technology around, with all the spec-ops the US has.. they couldn't have sent in a rogue team to kill him behind the scenes.

Quote:

---

Please forgive me as it's kind of hard to understand what you mean when you just say "america sucks". It's kind of a vague comment :).

---

I'll say the American People... for example in the statement "The American People are idiots for electing bush" :D ....... when I say America sucks I mean the country.. :) because of the government.. and somewhat because of the mentality... there are other reasons but that's enough.

Peace,
HT

I think I've been a victim of a terrorist thread hijack :eek:

Quote:

---

Your going to tell me that there is nothing wrong with not keeping an eye on countries ran by bad people

---

Personally I think that it is necessary to keep an eye on other counties with less pleasent agendas.
What turns this good act sour is the repeated stories that come up after a conflict such as Afghanistan or Iraq where US companies suddenly move in with multibillion dollar contracts and <shock and surprize> these companies seem to have major shareholders who are senior US officials. Halliburton anybody?

Politicians always have been corrupt, Politicians always will be corrupt the only suprise is that the public are still shocked by it.

Now I'm sure oil had nothing to do with the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq, but that pipline sure went in quick didn't it. apparently there is also plans for a pipeline through Iran to reach oil fields in Pakistan. Who is on the hit list now?

As for the generousity of the American Government the conditions attached to aid are almost aways put to further the agenda of the resident government. Bush against abortion, contraception etc so he attaches conditions to the same effect to aid to africa. Which is lovely considering the continant is endemic with AIDS and a huge number of women die in childbirth.

Quote:

---

Did you not see the satire in Team America: World Police

---

Actually I did not get the chance to see that movie and I'm glad you reminded me of it. I'll have to rent it this week :D.

Quote:

---

Keeping an eye is one thing, but policing is another... Did you not see the satire in Team America: World Police... It was making fun of that fact... not promoting it. I don't think that we need world police... Countries have always been run by bad people.. the US is run by a bad person.. as far as nukes... big deal... I recall hearing that a lot of the nukes that the US is "so worried" about don't even have the power to reach the US... If two countries want to go to war over there and nuke eachother out of existance... let them... that's there problem... I'd rather not see it happen but I don't think the US has to get involved... Then they complain about being attacked... If the US wants to play World Police.... as long as they aren't constantly undermining the UN... go for it... but don't cry foul when you take backlash from the "policing" efforts.

---

The US is worried that somehow they will smuggle the "dirty bombs" into the US and detonate them...

We can't just let countries go to nuclear war, do you realize the toll that would take on the environment?? And when those nukes are launched in the air and every country sees them, who knows who will join in the frenzy... If there is no world police and everyone get's nukes, that is the beginning of the end. The human race will wipe itself out...

And just so you know when al qaida ran the planes in the WTC that wasn't backlash for playing world police... According to bin laden, when the US helped him fight the USSR, american troops stepped on the "holy land", or some bullshit... What they did was totally unecessary... That's the thanks we get for helping him...

Hmmm, all very interesting, and I was going to stay out of it (honest ) then I thought, No! let's attack Ennis.heee, heee.

Quote:

---

Dont fight anybodys silly war.

---

Please explain the "wild geese" old chap? :D or to go back earlier "Gallowglasses"

:)

I would need to do some research, but I suspect that the Irish were involved in mercenary activities in pre-Christian times?

:eek:

Bah, I forgot to add a couple things...

Quote:

---

"The American People are idiots for electing bush"

---

Unfortunatly the american people have not really had much of a choice the last couple elections... it was either bush or some other idiot (kerry)... Not to mention it's not wise to switch presidents during war time and has never been done so in US history, at least not to my knowledge...

Quote:

---

With all the technology around, with all the spec-ops the US has.. they couldn't have sent in a rogue team to kill him behind the scenes.

---

This sounds like a good idea, and this is what I always thought, but that wouldn't really solve the problem... Even if they sniped saddam and his 2 sons, saddam had a whole thing of followers just like him willing to take his spot... Just like the problem with bin laden, even if we catch bin laden, someone is going to fill in...

Speaking of spec ops, I hear austrailia has some pretty bad ass spec op guys around :D... Would be interesting to see them in action...

The whole stint overseas will start to dwindle anyway.

All of the "bad publicity" on the war in Iraq has military enlistment at a record low.
Eventually, US will have no choice but to pull out.

...or start a draft... but I don't know if that's likely... well... according to the military recruiters...