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Oh! my god! are you a HACKER .... :confused:Quote:
Originally posted here by hackerjacker
Hackers are not b@#t@rds! I understand that maybe some hackers use their skills to wreak havoc, but I use my skills to get my passwords back, and test the security of my network etc.
hackerjacker,
You obviously didn't read the posts...or you just ' skimmed ' over them...
I never said that HACKERS are Ba@#tards...unless you're refering to the article that does...
And many people here have repeatedly tried to DEFINE the difference between a HACKER and a CRACKER/SCRIPTKIDDIE...
unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a UNIVERSAL and ACCEPTED DEFINITION of the term HACKER...
the point that I've made here is that IF you define, as some do, a HACKER as someone who does good and yet STILL gains access to another person's property WITHOUT their EXPRESSED PERMISSION then...he is committing an UNETHICAL ACT...and a very UNNECCESSARY ACT to achieve a positive goal...therefore he/she is WRONG!
Ontheotherhand IF you define a HACKER as someone who DOES NOT compromise or enter another person's property WITHOUT their EXPRESSED PERMISSION then...you have an ETHICAL DEFINITION of a HACKER.
The problem rests in that not everyone defines what a HACKER is and is allowed to do in the same way...there are no set rules.
And this creates a problem...we live by proper definitions...we understand what a doctor is ( even further defined by his/her area of specialty )...we understand what a janitor is...we understand what a pilot is...because they have ACCEPTED DEFINITIONS...a HACKER does not have that accepted definition and can dramatically change from one person to the next.
So..barring an affirmed definition...the only way we can characterize what a HACKER is...is by applying a code of ETHICS.
Eg ;)
This started out as a security news story about hackers...but has since turned into a cosmos discussion...maybe it should be moved?
People who dub themselves or others around them the H-word... at what moment have you seen anyone like that do anything smart or even entertaining with a computer?Quote:
you are being too harsh on the hackers,man you should look at the contribution they are giving to the security department of various countries.with the help of them only many big theft are being prevented.HACKERS only prevent ous frfom the CRACKERS.understand the thin line between hackers & crackers.
Criminal actions or not... there is a big difference between someone who actually takes up a real interest in computers as opposed to those who toss the H-word around.
*Yawn*
Discussions about Ethics can go on forever since everybody feels different or they have their own ethics.
Black Cluster: this is a computer-related site... I'm sure there's tons of hackers...
Anyway, I know lots of people that have gotten their paypal account hacked. It's just sad and the hacker him/herself should feel bad about it, I know I definitly would. If only the internet was a safer place...
Hi CopyRight,
True...everyone can decide what is right and what is wrong in their opinion...fortunately it's not up to their opinion.
Eg ;)
Only if your religious... if not then you'll know people have created that. I find your last post rather ironic after reading about two pages of your analogies and everyone's defense of some word.Quote:
True...everyone can decide what is right and what is wrong in their opinion...fortunately it's not up to their opinion.
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Computers for them are only the tool of choice when it comes to keeping an image. They are also under the impression that they are beyond just any other user out there... this is often proven to be untrue.
So what we have here are egotists with an inferiority complex.
I mean... god forbid if your just an average guy who likes computers and just leave it at that as opposed to thumping your chest and tossing the H word around.
Why? If he/she has just emptied your bank account I'd expect that they would be frickin delighted.Quote:
the hacker him/herself should feel bad about it
Same as the junky that rips out your nice car stereo and sells it for their next fix. They'll be happy people that their next dose is paid for.
The crime is theft. Doesn't matter if it's done by breaking into your car or breaking into your PC, it's still theft. The H word just puts a more interesting media spin on an old crime.
Hacker as a word is lost to the 'dark side'. If you call youself a hacker to other people (non-technical expecially) you either look like a criminal or a *****.
My SuperMan Ego,
Again...you seem to miss the point...as CopyRight did...this is not about religious ethics...it's about PROPERTY RIGHTS...and an Ethical VIOLATION of those Rights.
Unless you OWN the computer or information ... you do NOT have a right to it.
What does that have to do with OPINION or RELIGION????
Absolutely nothing.
Eg ;)
Hmm...I dont understand why we keep having a go at this hacker/cracker nonsense...they mean the same to the general public,period.Why try to justify it?You scream the difference aloud and they'll still think you're a criminal lol..Eg's repeatedly made the point VERY clear...it doesnt matter if you're Bill Gates..if you're im my computer illegally,you're a criminal.(please,no MS jokes please;) ).
The article's been written by an ass who probably sent all his money to a 'dying uncle in Kenya' and is now furious he isnt getting 70% of the billion dollar deal.
Cheers