Internet Explorer 8 is here

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Originally Posted by devil_ankur18

usually when i open microsoft site using ie7 it hang the whole system

this is not the case with firefox three
firefox also had a plenty of pluging which are not available in ie
are there any majour security isue for which some of u are not recomding firefox

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Only time I have seen a Hang with IE6 or 7 on an MS site has been when I am looking at a multi malware infection.. latest was SDBOT..
So you must be having a hell of a time if you do a manual update.. is the auto update working? (well at least notifying you of available updates)

FF 2 or 3 with out a good script blocking addon is like hanging a sign around your neck.. "ass for any takers"
BTW.. FF3 is my default browser on this machine

And there are plugins available for IE7..some are free..
And MAny here are NOT IE fanboys.. we will call a spade a spade.. in your situation your blaming the car for the flat tyre not the hole in the tyre.

And we are not recommending IE.. we are just pointing out that from your description.. your installation COULD have a problem.. not a innate issue with IE..

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firefox also had a plenty of pluging which are not available in ie

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Almost all browsers as of late have some sort of extension mechanisms. In a nutshell, there are almost no limitations to the features you can add to these applications.

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are there any majour security isue for which some of u are not recomding firefox

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Applications are always the least privileged within hierarchical protection domains, and therefore, should not be much of a security concern to begin with.

People who don't see my point likely have never properly setup their account or noticed the policy manager in XP. Better yet... completely ****ed alot of things already in place when they've upgraded to Vista.

"My computer isn't safe but atleast my browser is." - Haha!

IE7:

http://secunia.com/product/12366/

FF3 hasn't been released for long enough to really see. There were a number of vulnerabilities when it was first launched in July, but I am not aware of any major outstanding ones.

IE8 is still in beta. You shouldn't test beta software on a production machine.

A computer is as secure as its weakest link, which is almost inevitably its user ;)

Hope it is good!

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Originally Posted by t34b4g5

I'm not taking a cheap shot at the quoted poster either ;) .

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Not a cheap shot!? Yar, I hope you didn't pay too much... ;)

I use about all the browsers on a variety of OS's (Linux & Windows).
Opera's been my favorite lately, as it was in the late 90's when I bought
a copy of v3.62 (what a great browser that was!). Opera does indeed
seem to come closer to rendering webpages similarly to IE.

I've had bad experiences with Firefox 3 on older computers. Seems
fine on newer hardware, but I'll be sticking with FF2 for now. For secure
browsing, it's hard to beat FF w/ the NoScript plug-in. Does anybody
here really have trust issues with NoScript?

I avoided using IE until the last two years when I ended up in a string
of "Windows shops". An IIS intranet composed from MS Office often
does not play well with other browsers. IE7 Pro looks very interesting
(thanks for that one!). IE8 seems to me to be a lot like IE7.

Browsers are like cars...if it gets you there, fine.

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I love it when all these security IT what ever's pop up and are quick to point out problems.

I mean it's still in "Beta" off course there's going to be something prown to go wrong.

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I think that you totally missed the point. They were not "pointing out problems" as far as I can see, they were just explaining what this new "security measure" does and doesn't do.

Basically, what they said was that the feature will hide potentially sensitive information from casual observers. It will not hide it from a forensic style analysis (neither will FF) even one that does not involve physically dismantling the HDD.

So, we can take it that this does not comply with MoD, DoD and NSA standards.

:)

Also worth mentioning, while the pr0n mode may hide the browsing you do on your local PC (on the surface level), it will still show up in your company's firewall's logs, which is where most activity of that nature is spotted.

So pr0n mode != field day

This review is interesting:

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"IE8 is epically porcine," said Barth. "Microsoft has gone to epic levels of bloat."

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http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...ID=103870&pn=1

I would suggest that we are not taking account of hardware developments?

IE8 was probably designed to operate in a Vista-like hardware environment?

Personally, I take the view that if I have the resources then I don't mind using them. If I have 512Mb of unused RAM it might as well be in my desk drawer?

If I have old hardware, the first thing I take into account is what it is capable of, when selecting software.

IE8 is bloatware? Doh, it's MS.

I uninstalled IE8 last night on my XP test unit and
it was listed at only 4-something MB's. Uninstalling
took it back to IE7. Sounds like IE8 total size will
be around 25 MB's.

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Originally Posted by nihil

This review is interesting:



http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...ID=103870&pn=1

I would suggest that we are not taking account of hardware developments?

IE8 was probably designed to operate in a Vista-like hardware environment?

Personally, I take the view that if I have the resources then I don't mind using them. If I have 512Mb of unused RAM it might as well be in my desk drawer?

If I have old hardware, the first thing I take into account is what it is capable of, when selecting software.

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There in lays an interesting area of debate:

The building of Apps to use every bit of the current hardware/resources.. or building efficient apps that use few resources.. so the user can run more (different) applications.

Like i discussed with a group the other day.. $500 SOHO equipment or $500 Solitaire machine (Substitute the value of your standard market PC)