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Originally posted by paulcottingham
Tedob1,
...i still think its potential for good out weighs these for most people.

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um, a year ago, i bet your opnion would be different on this. the truth is that the gov. knows all they have to do is put "anti-terrorism" or "homeland defence" in the title of any bill and everyone will thing its just the best f'n thing arround. governments use times like this to set themselves up for more perminant power. if they want my f'n email, get a search warrent and go to my ISP to get it. dont just take it whenever you feel like it.

since you mentioned the scope for abuse, how about this: do you think that bored FBI agents wont use this for "entertainment"? it wouldnt surprise me if they did. not at all.

anyone who has first-hand experiance with the US Gov. knows that they are way to bass ackwards and idiotic to know how to properly deal with this type of info. i mean, im sure that alot of security related email that i get will set off huge red lights in this system, and i dont really feel like being investigated for being a "terrorist hacker" because that is what they'll do now. no matter what crime it is you are doing, they'll label it "terrorism".

ladies & gents,

you have to realize one thing, if big brother wants to watch you there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. the simple truth is that they have more time, $$, & assets at their disposal than the average, (and above average), computer geek.

sorry folks, just a simple fact.

:rolleyes:

Everyones talking about encryption..... The only thing I have to sayis that the best encryption is the one you make yourself.. And im not just talking about the encryption keys, the whole system has to be created by you... And nowadays thats not very hard to do..... With JavaScript and everything... All you have to do is spend an hour or 2 making the applet, and your set to go. Im including an example that I found on http://www.robson.org/gary/fun/powercrypter.html



<script language="JavaScript">

<!--

var alphabet = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ .?!1234567890-=+_)(*&^%$#@!";


var seed;


function random () {
var x = seed >> 4;
var y = seed ^ x;
var z = (y << 15-4) & 0x7FFF;
seed = y ^ z;
return seed % alphabet.length
}


function crypt(form, encode) {
var inMsg = form.message.value, inLetter;
var outMsg = "", outLetter;
var letter, pos;
var key = form.key.value;

// Create the starting seed by indexing and reducing the key to an
// integer offset into the alphabet.
seed = 1;
for (pos = 0; pos < key.length; pos++) {
seed *= 5;
seed += alphabet.indexOf(form.key.value.charAt(pos));
}

// Rotate each position in the text by a pseudo-random amount, using
// the starting point specified by the seed.
for (pos = 0; pos < inMsg.length; pos++) {
inLetter = inMsg.charAt(pos);
letter = inLetter;
number = alphabet.indexOf(letter,0);
if (number >= 0) {
if (encode)
var increment = random();
else
var increment = alphabet.length - random();
number = (number + increment) % alphabet.length;
outLetter = alphabet.charAt(number);
outMsg += outLetter;
}
else
outMsg += inLetter;
}
form.message.value = outMsg;
}
// -->
</script>


Now this example isnt very good but I thought Id post it for the heck of it......Ive seen another JavaScript encryption program called 'XOR Encryption' Its a little bit better.. If anybody finds it... Please post the source.. ;) :p

I was at a convent a couple of months ago and a computer guy from the "swedish fbi" (SÄPO) talking about security. He got the question about how safe a 128 bit PGP encrypted mail was and he used NSA as an example. Apparently their puters break it in 0.02 seconds..
I don´t know if making your own encryption would make any difference but I wouldn´t bet 2 cents on it. :(

I normaly use pgp for my webmail(hotmail, lycos etc)...

and sometimes JinXed encryption... my own private (5 users) encryption format

If your serious about encryption then AES:

http://www.blackcode.com/news/view.php?id=133

"AES supports 128-bit, 192-bit and 256-bit keys, much larger than the 56-bit keys that DES supports.

Currently, specialized computers can crack a DES key after several hours of number crunching, NIST said.

Assuming that someone built a machine that could crack a DES key in one second, it would still take that machine 149 trillion years to crack a 128-bit key, according to NIST. "

Although i still stand by my origional views that i dont do anything remotely dodgy enough to attract anyones attention

hell no, i don't want the fbi reading my email. it is my business. i wouldn't feel safe if they did read everyone's email. what will it stop, anyway. everybody doesn't have email. to me, that violates my right to privacy. i do not believe in unreasonable searches and seizure. to me, my email is my personal property, and the sept. 11 attacks are not a good enough reason to go through my stuff! so, the fbi needs to back off a little. all this hysteria- makes no sense! :)

Well, they already have the phone system tapped. When ever you say anthrax or bomb or assassinate and President in the same sentence a tape somewhere turns on to record the conversation. I can just imagine the abuse on that. Even though the government is not "supposed" to spy on us, instead they let England spy on us, America spys on them and then they swap the information. I know for sure on that one.

Hello,
this aes encryption is damn good, takes a while to run on my pc but it's ok, i'm encrypting a receipe for sarin gas to my old roomate... sure he'll appreciate.... no seriously there are thing i that i send that i could care less if the next day their were posted on the whole net yet some other things are private...
i think we are all concerned because the us gives the example to everyother gov. so we have to protest...

It doesnt matter what we say or do.... Big Brother is still watching over our shoulder.....