I am newbie hacker! Don't FLAME please...or else...

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He came to a security site seeking knowledge about security. If it wasn't for ppl that were breaking, or trying to break security, then there would be NO SUCH THING as security! Can you grasp that?

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i understand that to need security you need people to try and break it. but why do we have to teach him how to break it? wouldn't that defeat the purpose? he was asking how to crack passwords... that is asking how to penetrate security. we are about how to keep passwords from being broken. it is one thing to want to know how bruteforce works... that is security, but asking how to crack passwords is hacking and this isn't a hacker site... not in that sense. we aren't here to train them how to do it. people can test my box all they want... it is more then secure, but i am not going to tell them what to do to test it.

without criminals there would be no police, but the cops aren't handing out weapons and teaching criminals how to commit crimes now are they?

like i told Oblio

Die Grovel

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We WANT ppl to try/break security to test how secure we are, and if you (specifically) or anyone here doesn't understand that, then I would NOT want you looking after my box... that's for sure!

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I agree with this for one reason, and I think PhirePhreak said it perfectly when he called himself and others 'white hat hackers'. I've said it so many times, hacking is beautiful...but where are you motives. I practive hacking, yes, I admit it. I work in the IT dept of a company and I spend alot of my day trying to hack its systems....why??cause I'm paid to do it. They would rather have someone they trust try to hack them then some dirty cracker. I hack my own system regularily....why? to test the security and improve upon it.
so where are your motives growl??
you come in with a thread titled "I am a newbie Hacker...", and expect us to help. You must prove yourself worthy of receiving teaching. WHY you might ask...the same reason I wouldn't want to give nuclear/bio/chemical technology to a kiddie country, they need discipline before being able to handle weapons of mass destruction

I'll admit that I spend a lot of my time trying to crack my High School's security, but when I do, I just pat myself on the back and get out again... the lesson to be learned eventually by all is that it's more satisfying to know that you know how to do it, and don't.

SSJVegeta-Sei

So if you are new to the terminology, check AO's own Hacker Jargon Center, http://www.antionline.com/jargon/ . (Although I checked that it doesn't include "Password generator"). Also read The Ultimate Newbie FAQ, by Ennis: http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=218093

-ZeroOne :cool:

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Originally posted here by lord_darkside_x


it is one thing to want to know how bruteforce works... that is security, but asking how to crack passwords is hacking and this isn't a hacker site... not in that sense. we aren't here to train them how to do it.

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Absolutely, I should have worded that better...