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xmaddness, if you're really worried you could start posting them in the AntiOnline Addicts forum, which will deter many, but still let many who know look at it (once you get enough posts, that is).
As for myself, I haven't done much yet because I haven't reached a point in my learning where I can do much yet, though I'm getting close and should be doing so soon. As for the money JP, I'm working on getting it (have to collect a few debts first).
Once I've finished my exams (~ 4 weeks from now), there should be one or two articles for MsMittens to consider placing in the newsletter...Quote:
Originally posted here by JP
Greetings:
For example. MsMittens was nice enough to take charge and start the "AntiOnline Newsletter". However, despite many pleas, we have had hardly ANY articles turned in for the past 2 issues. Oh, we get plenty of posts "I loved it, when's the next one coming out", but MsMitten's PMbox has been empty of "The newsletter is a great idea, here's an article by me to help it along".
Cheque will hopefully be in the post sometime soon, see what my bank says about it today, as for the article, well it's already written but being edited slightly. :)Quote:
Originally posted here by JP
*I ask for a small donation to the MDA, I get "you shouldn't be using this site to ask people for money!@#$!" or "I'm on welfare" or "I'm on disability". or my favorite "I'll contribute any way I can to this community, I just can't give money to any charity/person because I can't afford it". Ok, where was your AntiOnline Newsletter Article then Mr. "I help out any way except financially".
How about some form of text ads, such as those on Google or MetaFilter? These tend to be noticed more than banner ads, especially if they're relevant to your visitors, e.g. in AO's case it would be computer-related products, especially security. An ad which says 'Click here to find out How to Hack Hotmail' would also got a lot of click throughs! ;)Quote:
Originally posted here by JP
Here's another one of my favorites. As you all know, AntiOnline isn't a pay-per-view website. No subscription fees, no membership fees, nothing. As you might also have guess, especially by recent upgrades, I invest a LOT of money into keeping AntiOnline up and running. I mean a LOT of money. So, obviously, I need a way to make that money back. How, you might ask? Well, advertising of course! We work hard to get big-name advertisers interested in our site, so that we can use them to help support the community. Despite all of this, I've seen dozens and dozens of posts, and discussions on IRC, and even e-mails and PMs to me, saying "I really don't care about this ad or that ad, or whatever, because I use an Ad blocker and I don't see any of them!" Great.
I'm sure it will. ;)Quote:
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In the past, I've thought about updating the AntiPoints system, or come up with some other system, that will recognize people for contributions to the community. However, I decided that I wasn't going to resort to coming up with ways to "force" people into giving back.
I'm just sitting back, watching things unfold, and hoping that this community, which is a new one, will mature..............
Good idea (although I haven't got enough antipoints yet to contributing that then;)). You could ask JP to set up a private forum for you with that 300 AP's rule. We already have got private forums 'AntiOnline Addicts' (I wonder what they discuss there about...) and 'Cosmos', so why not a 'Finding and Fixing Exploits' (or similar). I don't think JP could have much against it, could he?Quote:
Originally posted here by xmaddness
I have thought about setting up a forum for those of us who are interested in finding vulnerabilities and either patching them or making them known, but I feel that if we did this we would attract the not so honest people out there that want to gain this info for malicious use. What I propose is a forum that will be only accesible by those of us that have a high number of antipoints, say 300 at least to be able to view or post to the forum.
A forum that can only be accessed by members with X amount of AntiPoints is a good idea, and one which has been discussed before, the only problem is that many member's APs tend to fluctuate (e.g. in my case I went from 50 AP to -7, then suddenly shot up to ~300 in the space of four weeks!), so one day you might be able to post in the forum and the next day you might not because someone's given you some neg. AP.Quote:
Originally posted here by xmaddness
Hmm.. Hopefully I won't get flamed for this, but here goes... I have thought about setting up a forum for those of us who are interested in finding vulnerabilities and either patching them or making them known, but I feel that if we did this we would attract the not so honest people out there that want to gain this info for malicious use. What I propose is a forum that will be only accesible by those of us that have a high number of antipoints, say 300 at least to be able to view or post to the forum. In this forum we could discuss various projects and holes found in programming. I know for one that I am trying to teach myself various programming languages on my own, but without having anything to actually practice it with I'm afraid I will never develope the skills needed.
what do you people think?
However, I do agree with you on the point that it would be good to have such a forum. How about if it was that if you had ever had 300 AP (at any time), and you currently had over 200 AP, then you could post in the forum. That way, we could get rid of all the idiots who post stupid comments, yet not deny access to anyone who makes sensible suggestions yet has received some neg. AP from someone who doesn't agree with them.
hmm... I have something in mind but should I post it for the newsletter or at the forum?
JP > You need to understand that certain ppl are also bussy with other things...
like where is Ennis? I'm going to have MA exams pretty soon myself and I'm sure other ppl also have 'similar activities'... However what you are saying is right.
I think the idea of a restricted forum for this kind of advanced knowledge is a good idea....as much as I hate restricted forums it would prevent a negative element from disrupting what happens in the setting...
Instead of using Anti-Points or posting ranks, how about using date signed on. Alot of the best AO posters that I respect have less than 200 (the old guy, firefemme etc.), but they have been around for a while now...if you made a 4 week or maybe a 8 week probationary period before they can access these special areas...
Just a thought...
I agree with JCM spammers can rack up large post amounts in no time at all.
Firstly, shake, i've noticed how you are posting mindlessly in this thread. Please stop.
Secondly, we all know JP puts alot of time and effort into this site, and all of us would like to put back into this site too, but we just need to find our interest. For example, atm i am trying to start up something in the Web development forum. I'm sure people who specialise in cryptography, honeypots, security holes, security events etc etc are in this community, but we just haven't grabbed their attention yet.
And yes JP, i think if you really need people to put back into this community, [#attach.flame.proof.suit] then you gotta force them in some way to do it. Other wise we'll just keep getting script kiddies who wanna download the programs, and mindless posters who just wanna reach the status of antionline member. But at the same time you need to keep it to the Open source/GPL theme, and keep it free in a way.
Well there's my 5 cents (3 more than the usual)
Cheers!
:D
I use an Ad blocker and I don't see any of them!" Great.
Take, take, take, take, take, take, take.
Good point i will never do ad blocking again at AO
I will click on the ads!
u kick ppl out who know more than the moderators, i aint doin nothin for AO, as ao does nothin for me.