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Actually, In gainesville we had huge protests about it, we also had people out signing people up to vote, and if you voted you got into all the nightclubs free for two weeks. We signed nearly 4,000 students up to vote. But it still passed. Figure that one out. The whole town was up in arms about it.
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Draziw ans TC that is the point if one becomes passive and shows no concern then such things have passed and will passed. Drugs are not the issue more people attend and do not use drugs then take drugs, because the high is the event music, frinds, a sense of community. Not the right to Rave because you use drugs but the freedom of choice and not to use drugs and attend an expression of art. Art is not defined by me nor my generation not your generation but by the artist that express their works in any medium. Rave is not equal to drug use, drug use is that and if there are booths that test if it is real all the better it is a matter of personal responsibility. There is no law that can be passed to prevent a junkie, is it no more wise then to ask what and why do people use or experiment with drugs? Has nothing to do with a Rave or number of people, has to do with social, family, and money problems. Outlaw the result or find the reason? And as my father god rest his soul said the world is not perfect nor it's people and things go on about you you may not like then remove yourself from there no need to pass a law for common sense, world is not here for you and your view.
Here in the Milwaukee area of Wisconsin every summer for 11 days there is a music festival called Summerfest, it consists of various stages all playing music that you can go watch throughout the day. This year I attended everyday and i spent most of my time at the stage playing electronic music and as the night grew on this place filled(the stage area that is) to a point of at least 500 persons. Most were dancing and if a law like this were to pass in Wisconsin it could endanger even this which out side of cigarettes and beer was almost without drugs. Laws like this infringe on our basic rights and allowing them to pass is a good way for polititions to loose constituants that apreciate this music. I regret to say that I remain unsprised that bills like this exsist as people bend t4o media ideals. And **** Extacy and such at raves, if I'm going to do drugs I'll do them if the conformt of my own home, there at least I'm less likely to get into legal trouble.
This is a very bad idea.
FACT: Making raves illegal increases instances of ecstacy related deaths.
I am 30 now, but when I was younger (and from time to time to this day) I was a clubber. I remember, about 15 years ago, when the dance scene kicked off in the UK. Most raves were Illegal here then. This didn't stop raves from happening (or stop me from being there :)) it just forced them underground.
Because clubs were underground there was no supervision of how they were run. Some raves would turn off the water supply in the toilets to force people to buy water. Most underground raves were held in premises that would have horrified any self respecting health and safety official.
With legalisation comes state control, or at least oversight - UK clubs are now obliged to provide free water, clubs are not allowed to pack a venue to over capacity and in many cases medical staff are on hand in case anyone goes into antiphilactic shock from MDA allergy (MDA is the active constituent of ecstacy - or at least it was before the current wave of Kettamin pills - kettemin is a horse tranquilliser btw).
The bottom line here is that you are not going to stop people taking drugs and you are not going to stop 'raves'. Given this fact the only way to protect the dance community is to licence these events and in doing so make the promoter responsible for the safety of the club goers.
driziw im totally with you on the subject.. I go to jungle parties and the occassional massives. Most the people I know that are totally into the music(most of the ppl at raves) are not promoting drugs ( herbalz are welcomed ;) ). Its the little rich kids that hear that some drug is cool so they do go ahead and pop a couple pills for their first time. They are the ones giving the rave scene a "druggie" look. I get madder and madder every day I hear about some club being shutdown because their county makes "raves" illegal. (Thanks gay davis youre really helping musicians and artists).
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I guess the government just wants us more boring and plain by taking away our rights to express ourselves. If we are punished for being creative and exploring technology and how it is unperfected, learning how it is being compromised, the government will have that much more power and knowlege than the common man.
PS Euclid -- you have any demos of you MCing? what do you spin?
Here they have these same parties organised by cigaret companies but it's illegal for people to go to parties like that which are associated with cigarets...so what these companies do is they send sms's to these people like: You wanna party? Go to this postoffice ask for a package for Mr. Somebody and your invitation will be in there, then you have to send a reply sms with some code on it. Nobody knows where these parties will be until the last minute...
Well I too am open minded and liberal about certian things like Greek Goddess. I too have been to raves, and have MANY friends in the "scene" that either go to or promote these events.
I have to bite my tongue every time one of the promotors starts to rant about how they are not promoting drug use at their own parties, but these very same people go and roll, or do some other drug while there, and THEN they brag to me about the different types of pills that they found available at their own parties. The lack of self control for these people astounds me, and makes me wonder at the future of this world.
I don't agree with this law however, as it DOES encroach upon our civil rights and constitutional liberties. If you are going to single out one type of event then you are discriminating. I worry about this law, not because it directly affects me, but because it's laying the groundwork for future violations of your contitutional rights. The big picture here is that for years there has been a movement in this country, on both sides of the aisle, to take away small parts of your rights until you become so used to it that you don't notice when they start taking bigger chunks. Take a look at the last 30 years of laws, and look at how much of your rights have actually been taken away from you while you turned a blind eye because it didn't affect you directly.
El Diablo
is not a conspiracy theory freak either :p
werd el diablo... lol