IP<<< Hide me the right way

ow.. thx MsM..

didn't know about that.. have to check it out..
Will post more on that soon..

if any willing Java knowlegable person wants to check it out..
here is the source to JAP http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/develop/jap.src.tgz

funny you guys mentioned JAP, thats what the guys from that web site I visit told me to use.

JAP is a product of a German university, still in development and testing and AFAIK the only server is hosted by the developers. A German court ordered them to log users to a certain address, which wasn't named. The JAP team did not announce this, but they did publish the source code and it was quickly found by an outside programmer inspecting the code. The main problem is that if it happens again, we can expect they will not announce it. While I do not trust any government, it seems that the German courts are quite a bit less corrupt than the US courts. As such, I wouldn't expect them to order logging of a grow site and they may not order it again in any case. Even so, at least our local pigs would have to get this info from a German court.

You could connect from your computer to the JAP server, then from that to another proxy. This would prevent anyone (e.g. Carnivore) from logging your session at your ISP, and it would obscure your final destination to the JAP chain. I just use JAP, assuming that even if possible for our pigs to weasel their way into getting data from JAP it would be far too much of a hassle for them to actually do.

Now I was also told that it may hide you until you enter a site that has java enabled.
So I was also told to use HiProxy, a proxy utility, which allows me to turn off java at the flick of a switch.

hmmmmmm after reading those articles about JAP. (sigh)

OK,

I have one final "contribution" to this thread, then you are on your own.

What about the social engineering and logistics of it all.............have you considered your environment?

There is so much traffic on the net, it is not possible to monitor more than a fraction of it?..........it is quite easy to detect people acting in a furtive manner, and single them out for "special attention"

By attempting to "secure yourself" you might actually be attracting attention to yourself?

Maybe using an open but high volume service would be your answer..............unless you have already been targetted?

I know that is a bit of a "devil's advocate" argument, but perhaps worth a thought?

Cheers

I thought win XP pro has raw sockets that are usable.

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Originally posted here by PoSer
I thought win XP pro has raw sockets that are usable.

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It does. But as far as I know you need special DLLs and stuff to use them. I am not sure whether the Perl Net::RawIP package can be used under Windows, never tried it.

how the f**** do i make my **** so i cant be seen on line or any thing liek that im allready stealth but i want my ip to mask

I can't see your **** unless you have a video camera.... but then again, why would I want to? :D


And did you even read this thread? Welcome to Ao, nice first post. I can tell you are going to be a valuable and worthy member of AO....

Actually, I think you're just a member, or maybe a tool.. I forget. :rolleyes:

EDIT: By the way, is that what passes for punctuation in grade school these days?

http://www.oxid.it/sterm.html trying to get that to work but dont know how

James............why?

What is it that you are so afraid of saying up front?.....oh well, at least you won't be a suicide bomber....you haven't even got the balls to run off at the mouth?

I am now starting to wonder about this site.............there seems to be a number of very strange creatures recently? maybe I should go someplace else?

just a very serious thought

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