Clinton had an affair in office....and he lied about it,
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Clinton had an affair in office....and he lied about it,
I'd rather have bush over clinton any day...Lying under oath...from a prez...c'mon now...you got your dicked sucked...big deal, tell the truth and deal with your wife later. At least bush means what he sayz and says what he means. I wasn't liking him much when he came into office but I changed my opinion on how he handled matters after Sept. 11th. I dont think anyone can argue on that. Hate him or not, at least don't deny how he handled things...Most liberals are very quick to judging him...and not even ONCE did they compliment him...
My 2 cent....I dont really like getting into politics much.
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Name one, and why he was worse.
Truman finished WW2 and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.
Clinton!!! He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions
Warren Harding is widely considered the worst President in American history. Financial impropriety was rampant in the administration. Harding died of natural causes while in office.
I guess I did start something... Sorry for hijacking your thread moxnix :rolleyes:
I should have posted this as a new topic.
mods?
<edit>I am going to do this now.... :D</edit>
Where are the WMD? Did Bush not lie to Congress about them? Old presidente getting a little head is a better lie than one that people die for...Quote:
Originally posted here by Cybr1d
I'd rather have bush over clinton any day...Lying under oath...from a prez...c'mon now...you got your dicked sucked...big deal, tell the truth and deal with your wife later. At least bush means what he sayz and says what he means.
Ahhhh.... getting sucked into cosmos again... ;)
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Originally posted here by CXGJarrod
Where are the WMD? Did Bush not lie to Congress about them? Old presidente getting a little head is a better lie than one that people die for...
Ahhhh.... getting sucked into cosmos again... ;)
I continued my hijack HERE
Sorry moxnix.
Please people no further discussion on my exploits in this thread. :p
Here I’ll bring us back on topic, not as conclusive as an earlier post but I tried the first few or so.
They are being ratified for acceptance as new states, Afganistate and Iraqiana.Quote:
Attacked and took over two countries
He did spend the surplus from a balanced budget. He spends too much, there’s another bone. But the treasury is not bankrupt that’s just asinine. If we ever bankrupt the treasury we are totally ****ed. Stoplights will stop working and all the republican gun nuts are going to come out of the woods and enslave us all.Quote:
Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury
Your right, we should attack OPEC since THEY set the prices in order to curb demand and control production based on their formulas for market outlook and volatility. The price index looks like the stock market with highs and lows but always ever climbing up. Presidents have never used the natural reserves outside of gross emergencies, they are there to support tragedies and sustain attacks against the country. Using them up would only delay the price change and destroy our reserves. Gasoline prices have actually spiked a few times in the past. Around the early 80s gas prices went to 2 bucks a gallon in some places. Not sure how many follow world trade but I don’t see how Bush is doing anything but trying to keep the cost down. Gas prices are setting records everyday these past few weeks. During Bush Sr. term I remember gas prices being super low, did he have any real effect on that? Nope… they were even cheaper than back in the 1800s . lol Petroleum is a commodity, some attempt to track it very closely . Well it wasn't quite as cheap as the 1800s, those prices were for 5 gallons but gas was well below a dollar in the late 80s.Quote:
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Love that word “presided”
Yep spends too much. Without 911 I would hope the budget achievements of Clinton would have held. There is no reason to believe otherwise. Of course those cuts in defense spending could have been a factor. Who knows its all hind sight.Quote:
Shattered Record for biggest annual defficit in history
Including the treasury? See Stock Market comments earlier. Credit is too easy to get and companies almost willingly place people into a position of failure. It's also and easy way out of debt. Clinton's act of 1994 also made it faster to file. The 80s and 90s saw record bankruptcies during cyclic economy downturns in each decade. Whether or not there was more in Bushy's term is inconclusive. I have to list a reference since they post a notice and I read their entire site. http://www.bankruptcydata.com/Research/15_Largest.htm Even though I didn't quote anything.Quote:
Set record for most bankruptcies
It’s funny how NO ONE support his efforts to do so.Quote:
Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.
To be honest I didn’t do much on this one, I admit defeat. I am assuming this is his 1976 DUI convictions? I don’t know anything about it other than my best friend had a DUI and I don’t judge too harshly for it. Of course I am not a member of MADD or anything like that. I am throwing another bone. It's a misdeamener but OK, he's a hardened criminal.Quote:
First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record
Party animal – I highly doubt this comment but I am bored. I was always under the assumption that Air Force one is always parked in the driveway and the president never gets a day off. I could be wrong. Ok I glanced through history and other presidents have taken some long holidays. President Johnson was famous for his frequent Texas BBQs, what’s with those Texans and their ranches? Who was the president who spent the most time vacationing? Bushy Fish? Nope from what I can see it’s Truman. He spent more than 6 months during his 7 years as president at his ranch. Of course if GW get re-elected he may actually live up to that, he would need another few months.Quote:
First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
Yep those Arab guys y’all love did it. They fooled him and his advisors and congress and Kerry and Ted Kennedy who cut intelligence budgets for decades, and Clinton who failed to secure the ring leader. Not blaming him like others want to blame but wouldn’t it have been nice?Quote:
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history
Term I like to use: Crack SmokerQuote:
Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
So he’s not stuck on his own bloated ego. Not even sure of this is true, don’t care.Quote:
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television
Eisenhower took an eight year vacation. The only thing you would see in the papers and hear of on the news was the president is playing golf, playing bridge, is sick, is resting at Camp David, ect.Quote:
Ok I glanced through history and other presidents have taken some long holidays.
I listed him in aeallison's thread as who I consider the all time worst president, so I don't consider George to be out of line in taking what time off he can, when he can. (and I don't like Bush, he scares the hell out of me)
Kerry doesn't scare you? Do you listen to his speeches to different people? Have you read his web site and see his written words versus his public offerings to the people? I can't make heads or tails and still to this day WHO THE HELL IS HE RUNNING WITH???
And you comment makes 2 presidents taking longer vacations than Bush the one who In his 1st year of office bla bla bla. :)
Kerry needs to settle on a subject...he's contradicting himself from what he's quoted saying just a year ago. He has switched his campaign ad over 4 times...and he constantly contradicts himself about things that he has done and has said. He has admited to breaking the geneva convetion and has admited to have participated in atrocities againts the vietnamese. He admited to have taken part in humiliation and murdering of hundreds of vietnamese civilians, cutting their genitals off, using .50mm machine guns. Its all on tape.