Make AO a Pay Site

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Oh my posts are so grand that these sons of bitches should pay to talk or be in association with me

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Woohoo! Oh yeah! lets make AO even more money whoreing than usual... if thats even a possability.

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HT you've mentioned this once already haven't you? Without "trolls"... where would all the general chit **** come from? What about the redundant & endless amounts of tech-support questions? Crap... we would have nothing to talk about. Jesus man, kinda odd considering that just a few days ago someone was yapping about the hits being lower than they were about two to three years back. If a few ads and a new logo has cause so much bitching & moaning then what do you think will happen when it involves what's inside member's pockets?

How about t-shirts and mugs? Atleast you'd be getting something out of it. I've gone to plenty of confrences & meetings and things and the t-shirts there to those types of things in Atlanta usually go for $10, $20, or above per shirt/mug/(ect). I'll be honest... I get nothing out of posting here except entertainment and as far as entertainment goes I can get everything from music, movies, games, & porn for free right off the world wide web. Atleast by selling stuff with a AO logo on it you'd be getting something.

Hey Hey,

Why does everyone keep bringing up getting something for your money, I never once said this was a money making idea.. it was suggestion for getting rid of trolls... that was all...

How does it get rid of trolls? IMO they have better things to do than buy a postcard and send it away, or go to pay pal and pay a buck just so they can harass people... they may have no lives... but they don't have so little of lives that they'd waste their time doing that.

As far as students go... I'm one of the lowest income students at my college.. I make less than $500 a month and pay for everything out of my own pocket... on top of that I'm already almost $40,000 in debt... and I'm still willing to do it...

I personally think that many of the people that don't support it are just cheap... or lazy... but that if it came down to it.. many people would pay rather than lose this site. The sad part is that many of the people around here couldn't live without AO because it's the only friends they have... so I'm sure they'd pay to come back.... As far as the newbies... screw them.. Most of them are computer geeks... If they can pay 4.95 for 24 hours of access to a porn site they could damn well pay a buck to access a site that'd be beneficial to them.. if not... let them go elsewhere.. It's no secret that I dislike most newbies... they either CnP or they post pure ****... very seldom is there one that posts anything that's pleasurable to read.

Peace,
HT

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Originally posted here by Spyder32
As for the copyright, I see it at the bottom of the page. Don't you?

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Hmm, I'm fairly sure it didn't use to be there when JP ran the site. Then again, I never scroll down to the very bottom of the page anyway. :)

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Originally posted here by MsMittens
I don't know if many of you remember student life but it's a rather poor existence these days.

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Indeed it is - a third of students over here pay £1000+ per year for tuition (it used to be free until the government abolished grants and introduced tuition fees) plus they get into at least £3000 more debt for each year they study as a result of loans. Asking for a few pounds to sign up to AO might not seem like much, but when you're paying £200+/month for a house and have no source of income other than parents and the government (who expect the money back now that grants have gone) every penny counts.

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Originally posted here by HTRegz
As far as students go... I'm one of the lowest income students at my college.. I make less than $500 a month and pay for everything out of my own pocket... on top of that I'm already almost $40,000 in debt... and I'm still willing to do it...

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$500/month is a relatively high amount of money, most people I know don't make that much (and things are generally more expensive over here as well).

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I personally think that many of the people that don't support it are just cheap... or lazy...

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Just because you're prepared to stump up the money doesn't mean that everyone who isn't is cheap or lazy.

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It's no secret that I dislike most newbies... they either CnP or they post pure ****... very seldom is there one that posts anything that's pleasurable to read.

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We were all newbies originally - if everyone thought the same way you seem to we wouldn't have any new members.

Hey Hey,

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$500/month is a relatively high amount of money, most people I know don't make that much (and things are generally more expensive over here as well).

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How do you figure $500 a month is a relatively high amount of money? I'm not talking USD...
If you want to convert it that's $382 USD or 204 British Pounds.

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Just because you're prepared to stump up the money doesn't mean that everyone who isn't is cheap or lazy

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Then you tell me what they are.

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Indeed it is - a third of students over here pay £1000+ per year for tuition (it used to be free until the government abolished grants and introduced tuition fees) plus they get into at least £3000 more debt for each year they study as a result of loans. Asking for a few pounds to sign up to AO might not seem like much, but when you're paying £200+/month for a house and have no source of income other than parents and the government (who expect the money back now that grants have gone) every penny counts.

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£1000 -- That's roughly what I pay in tuition... not including books, housing, a laptop (required for school), or anything else... my gf's tuition is closer to £1300 if you want to convert. Our appt is £448, combined phone bills £106... Add credit card bills (which I used to live off), interest on stuent loans and everything else. Our government severly limits how much money they'll loan you... Asking for a few pounds is a lil more than I said.... I dunno what unit of measure you use.. but I believe it's roughly 2 : 1 for USD .. .so I'd say it's more like 1/2 a pound...

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We were all newbies originally - if everyone thought the same way you seem to we wouldn't have any new members.

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I said most newbies.... look at how many people register at this site and how many stick around long enough to last on these forums... not many...if we cut out the ones that'll ask one or two tech support questions and leave... .then hey.. we're saving ourselves a headache..

Peace,
HT

I'm poor. But you could probably care less if I'm here or not. I guess I'm not the ideal member. I have a small network I run at home and I'll probably never see an IT job. It's really just a hobby. But, I do enjoy every bit of knowledge I get from reading these forums and if I had to I would find some way to pay whatever I need to pay to stay here just like I do what I have to do to keep my cable line.

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Originally posted here by NemorY
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I know Negative and MsM do, Ennis never got a cent ....and i heard he never saw the "Moderators Forum".....

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I dont deserve money for this site, I havent even talked to any of the Admins or anything. I'm pretty much a member who can close threads.

On a side note, I'm sorry but this is a horrible idea. Any more corporate and this site may as well open a McDonalds forum.

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Originally posted here by HTRegz
How do you figure $500 a month is a relatively high amount of money? I'm not talking USD...
If you want to convert it that's $382 USD or 204 British Pounds.

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Most people I know don't earn £200+/month, and that's without taking into account the fact that stuff often costs a lot more over here (for example, your equivalent to VAT appears to be 7%, whereas ours is 17.5%).

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Then you tell me what they are.

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They aren't anything in particular. They're just people who don't want to fork out money to register/post on a web site.

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£1000 -- That's roughly what I pay in tuition... not including books, housing, a laptop (required for school), or anything else

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Yes, my fees don't include any of that stuff either.

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Our appt is £448, combined phone bills £106... Add credit card bills (which I used to live off), interest on stuent loans and everything else. Our government severly limits how much money they'll loan you... Asking for a few pounds is a lil more than I said.... I dunno what unit of measure you use.. but I believe it's roughly 2 : 1 for USD .. .so I'd say it's more like 1/2 a pound...

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Without going into specifics, suffice to say that the place I live in costs about the same if not more than yours - and the UK government isn't exactly generous when it comes to loaning money either. As for the conversion rate, you obviously haven't seen the prices of American goods over here. It does not just depend on the exchange rate - to take an example of a micro-payment it costs 70p to buy a song from the iTunes store yet only $0.99 in the US. Oh, and don't forget the fact that people have to pay a commission to change money (either that or get "free" conversion with a poorer exchange rate). You can't just say "well, it's $1 so that will automatically be 50p because that's what the exhange rate".

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I said most newbies.... look at how many people register at this site and how many stick around long enough to last on these forums... not many...

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All the more reason to encourage those few to stay then. Surely if so few people stick around then implementing a scheme that would discourage people even more is a bad idea?

Ugh... To take this back out of the realm of who's dick is bigger contast between Pawring and HT.

I will say it is a bad, idea. There are plenty of other ways to get trolls to disappear or limit the amount atleast. The AP system does a good job of that.

In the event that this ever did become a site where you would have to pay. I for one, would be turning my server into a webserver as well.

I am going to be 100% honest I will not pay for a site, that I have written tutorials for and clicked on more than enough of those ugly ass ads.
Though I understand this is a means of getting rid of trolls.
This would then bring up another question from members.

"Well I paid my money, so why don't I get to have 2 accounts, I paid for both."

Turning AO into a pay site, would probably also kill, a lot of incoming members even if there was a grace period for your account, before you had to pay.

bad idea, this is just a way to keep out thousands of people who could have been decent members. say someone decent finds this site through google, realizes you have to pay or do something other than veryify account through email, and goes "Wow, **** this"

I say thats what would happen.