ada does a good job with that stuff... bit decay, cosmic rays, em distortion, etc... :)
cheers,
catch
ada does a good job with that stuff... bit decay, cosmic rays, em distortion, etc... :)
cheers,
catch
Jesus_H_Christ.........Talk about throwing a stick in my spokes............ada................ada83', ada95'..........damn bra you've thrown me a curve ball again, like that damn (dev-proof.pdf) The Development and Proof of a Formal Specification for a Multilevel Secure System.
**** that's going to take a while to soak into my brain too, at least before my greedy mind ask for more. Trust me though, all the sh!t you're saying is making more sense to me by the minute. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm contemplating deleting my one ignorant tut and making one on the history of the TCB! As the TCB is burnt into my brain for good after the "Cost Profile of a Highly Assured, Secure Operating System" pdf. I've read them over and over and over again, seven times at least.
Well... I am working on an OASIS (Organically Assured and Survivable Information Systems) tutorial next. Those TOSes are only second generation... generation the third is upon us... its children will be here very, very soon.
Hell my company is working on a security kernel that utilizes neural net inspired decision making with local weighting in the context of a verified model. The point is to automatically mitigate threats/compromises in real time. So the longer the system is around, it effectively hardens itself while staying in the confines of the verified model.
Back to the TOS stuff... if you look at it all... I mean really... you'll see that TCG is essentially working on a consumer level TCB. Granted a rather anemic one... but remember, grandma has got to be able to use it.
cheers,
catch
All it would really take is 1 nuke to start a nuclear war around the world, everyone would jump to conclusions and start firing at everyone else and we would all be toast. Except of course for all the rich ppl who have bomb shelters :)
There are far too many safeguards to prevent this from happening. That and most nations would have nothing to gain by escalating a nuclear exchange. The only way you'll ever see a full exchange is if either the US or any significant CIS members feel that they will lose the ability to strike back if they don't strike at that moment. Considering the sheer number of nukes in the air that that would require... unlikely to say the least.Quote:
All it would really take is 1 nuke to start a nuclear war around the world
We didn't exhange nukes in when the Soviets detonated their first nuke. We didn't exhange after both the US and the Soviets developed thermonuclear devices. WE didn't even exchange in the early to mid 80's when Regan was actively trying to mitigate the Soviet response capability (through increased first srtike and theater defense systems). Clearly some rouge action isn't going to make the world go insane now.
Interestingly enough, the US is laregely responsible for the doomsday clock having moved forward in 2002:
"<i>the continuing U.S. preference for unilateral action rather than cooperative international diplomacy; U.S. abandonment of the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty and U.S. efforts to thwart the enactment of international agreements designed to constrain proliferation of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons</i>"
The US has the policy of not using nuclear weapons unless our survival is threatened.
Of course this policy would have really been tested had the Warsaw Pact folks ever decided to try and take the other half of Germany. They had us really out numbered, however if the 6-day war showed us anything, it is that US hardware just plain works and Soviet hardware... mmm not so well.
cheers,
catch
quote- We didn't exhange nukes in when the Soviets detonated their first nuke. We didn't exhange after both the US and the Soviets developed thermonuclear devices. WE didn't even exchange in the early to mid 80's when Regan was actively trying to mitigate the Soviet response capability (through increased first srtike and theater defense systems). Clearly some rouge action isn't going to make the world go insane now.
What i was referring too is not if a country like Russia did a nuclear test because most likely we would know about the test ( we have spy satelites etc) but, if a country just randomly shot off a nuclear missile in our general direction we would most likely fire back in hopes of a pre emptive strike and hit them first ( our missle would most likely be more advanced than their missle capability although a smaller megatonnage) but that wouldnt matter if it worked :) anyway all this firing would cause an all out war i do believe which would annilate the planet pretty much but, this is an unlikely senario i admit because countries dont just go firing off nukes with no warning.
My argument still fits. Once a nation has put a missle up... we have no clear way of knowing what it is carrying or who launched it. Granted, if it did in fact carry a nuclear device, the American people (being the mindless, psuedo-god fearing sheep they are) would demand a retaliation in kind. In the past I would have assumed that cool heads would prevail and we'd follow due course on investigating the source of the missle before responding, and we would have no reason to respond with nukes as they really are not designed to deal with such situations. (our nukes are primarily designed to incapacitate our enemies' nukes as every dollar we spend on people killers is a dollar we don't spend on preventing their nukes from seeing the light of day)Quote:
What i was referring too is not if a country like Russia did a nuclear test because most likely we would know about the test ( we have spy satelites etc) but, if a country just randomly shot off a nuclear missile in our general direction we would most likely fire back in hopes of a pre emptive strike and hit them first ( our missle would most likely be more advanced than their missle capability although a smaller megatonnage) but that wouldnt matter if it worked anyway all this firing would cause an all out war i do believe which would annilate the planet pretty much but, this is an unlikely senario i admit because countries dont just go firing off nukes with no warning.
This current administration seems to have a lot of hotheads who don't seem to grasp strategy beyond compensating for small dicks AND (more importantly) making their friends money... as a nuclear retaliation only deals with one of these issues, a like response in force is unlikely.
Russia and France however have very lax nuclear policy these days, both of which state that they can use buclear weapons long before their survival is threatened (Russia, because they have no money for a suitable conventional force and France to take a needlesly hard stance against terrorism).
All this is rather moot, if a lone ICMB came our way, it'd most likely just be shot down. We've been violating the anti-ballistic missle treaty for quite a while now with far more promising ideas than star wars. THAADS is just one of many...
cheers,
catch
"That's heavy!" -- john connorQuote:
Originally posted here by catch
Well... I am working on an OASIS (Organically Assured and Survivable Information Systems) tutorial next. Those TOSes are only second generation... generation the third is upon us... its children will be here very, very soon.
Hell my company is working on a security kernel that utilizes neural net inspired decision making with local weighting in the context of a verified model. The point is to automatically mitigate threats/compromises in real time. So the longer the system is around, it effectively hardens itself while staying in the confines of the verified model.
Back to the TOS stuff... if you look at it all... I mean really... you'll see that TCG is essentially working on a consumer level TCB. Granted a rather anemic one... but remember, grandma has got to be able to use it.
cheers,
catch
And what government granted your company money for that kind of R&D? That sounds extremely interesting! Made me think about Terminator2 "My CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer."
I know about DARPA...sounds like DARPA to me.
I've looked in the DARPA archives before researching nano-tech stuff on quantum computation....I've seen some crazy stuff..........all outside of the box thinking!
http://www.darpa.mil/ato/programs.htm
http://www.darpa.mil/dso/trans/transit.htm
Which translates into: we need people to think outside the box.Quote:
The DARPA mission is to develop imaginative, innovative and often high-risk research ideas offering a significant technological impact that will go well beyond the normal evolutionary developmental approaches; and, to pursue these ideas from the demonstration of technical feasibility through the development of prototype systems.
I was thinking with all the base closers a bunch of vintage TOSes might come up for sale in lots............of course if you purchase the lot the TOS is in, you have to pay for the disposal of barrels containing mysterious liquids.
:)
Actually it is all private funding...Quote:
And what government granted your company money for that kind of R&D?
Yeah, I remember seeing some auctions like that over at Moffit. Really good equpiment with mystery barrels.Quote:
I was thinking with all the base closers a bunch of vintage TOSes might come up for sale in lots............of course if you purchase the lot the TOS is in, you have to pay for the disposal of barrels containing mysterious liquids.
"Can I just pour this down my drain?"
"That would be in violation of *statute number*"
"Can I just dump in down a drain in Messico?"
"*laughs* Actually we can't let you take this anywhere, you just need to pay us to dispose of it properly."
"How much will that cost me?"
"*quietly*A lot."
cheers,
catch
Catch, we do have monitoring stations in colorado ( norad) and in alaska and washington dc that have the capibility to know what kind of missile is fired at us. Granted, we wouldnt know immediately but, im sure we have the capability to figure out what kind of missile is being fired at our country. but, i dont disagree with you totally. to an extent i see your point.