That's because he sends the questions via PM :)
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That's because he sends the questions via PM :)
Sorry about the delay with questions four and five... considering that for the first three questions... no two people have given me the same answer, most of these answers conflict with each other, and almost none of the answers fully address my needs (either based on the fact that I've received conflicting information or it just wasn't comprehensive enough)... I am looking at some different ways to word these questions... perhaps even asking all of the questions twice... once with an open answer and once with a multiple choice answer.
Also, I need to figure out some way to strip out answers that rely on using research/ development/ prototype level software. My needs are for a professional environment, if I use Windows or AIX or any other mature system, and it blows up costing millions... "well **** happens" if I use "Super, lucky, happy, mega-Linux kernel module 0.0.3 pre-alpha proto-edition" and it blows up costing millions... I'll prolly get fired. :)
So... at this point I appreciate the first three answers, I'll hopefully have the others sorted in the next day or two.
cheers,
catch
Install a few distributions of Linux and come up with your own conclusions about it.
Why ask for opinions, when you can use your own about it?
Clearly you've missed the point of this thread.
I have used a number of Linux installs... in fact I have a few Linux systems runing at this very moment (RH6.2... never saw a need to update it). However this thread is not about my opinions of Linux, it is about Linux having (or not having) functionality beyond my understanding and how it is that this functionality was beyond my understanding. (Am I just ignorant? Is it poorly documented? Is the situation confusing with too many different solutions?)
So again, please stop questioning my motives... either offer to help, or keep your comments to yourself. Thanks.
cheers,
catch
I have followed this thread since the beginning. At first, by some answers, you would think the questions were asked publicly, some have even answered as if they were and others totaled them again as if they were. Now indications support that the questions are asked privately. Catch, now I'm intrigued, not only by what the questions are, but also if I could answer them technically, honestly and if at all. I'd like the opportunity to see what these questions are and try to provide my view of them.
The reason the questions are asked privately is because unless the responder misses the point so much that I think they must have misrad the question or the specifically ask for feedback, I provide none.
I knew this would turn into a debate if feedback was allowed, and I feel that largely the cause behind the confusion is the vast number of different ways to do some things.
cheers,
catch
PS.
23 out of 68 decided that they were not expert enouh
41 out of 55 have answered the first question
19 out of 41 have answered the second question
7 out of 19 have answered the third question
0 out of 0 have answered the fourth
0 out of 0 have answered the fifth and last question
I'd like to see the questions, I don't know what constitutes an expert. Don't expect me to answer them
Catch; obviously you seem knowledgeable enough.
Since your excuse is that SELinux is still beta, or development, or whatever, and as such is not good enough to be used.. Two things.
1) Linux is under development. Has been ever since creation. You want something more stable, go for a *BSD (OpenBSD is very good for security, and honestly, Linux is cute but has limitations).
2) If you want, I'll set up a SELinux box. Afterwards, you tell me what kind of user access you want (short of root, of course, I'll even give you wheel) and I'll leave it to you to compromise it. I honestly doubt that it can be that easy to overturn.
In fact, if my choice for a secure system weren't a *BSD (OpenBSD for security, but probably FreeBSD for firewall because I like theirs better), I'd likely go for SELinux pretty quickly..
And if you want to know why, it's a psychological detail. It may be developmental, after all, and it may not be "ready for production use", but Windows is what all of the crackers have their eyes on; so a Linux box is not likely to be looked at too much, which removes most of the idiots. When someone does look at the box, then you can only hope that you did your homework correctly..
Hahahahahahahahahahah are you ****ing drunk? Open BSD is more secure than Linux now? Lol, in which way exactly? Because they shut off everything in the system making it damn near un-useable out of the box and slap a secure sticker on it's ass?
Lol what a twerp.
Yup, that's exactly why. OpenBSD is geared towards security, so a lot of things you don't have to worry about as much out of the box.
I mean, come on - take an OpenBSD system out of the box and a Linux system out of the box (any random distribution as long as it's not SELinux+PaX+PIE+SSP...), which one is more secure? There you go.