Nsa Spying On Us!!!!!

I clicked on the "CNN" link in the first post to read the article and my Virus scan immediately detected a trojan exploit. How's that for paranoia? :mad:

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Originally posted here by judgement
I clicked on the "CNN" link in the first post to read the article and my Virus scan immediately detected a trojan exploit. How's that for paranoia? :mad:

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You do check the URL before just clicking on any links right..... ;) Money for Nothing

I usually check the url, but when 10 or more people have already replied talking about the article, I figure it's safe to click. Little did I know the link got switched at some point :P.

There are a couple posts above that reference another thread that talks about what has/may have happened here. Check 'em out.

I heard an ACLU press conference this morning in reference to the ACLU suit against the White House and wiretaps. One sentence from the ACLU representative really stuck out in my mind. (Sorry don't have a link)

(Paraphrasing here)
"My clients suspect that they are the targets of unlawful wiretaps and it is up to the White House to prove that it didn't happen."

Now I thought that our rule of law places the burdon of proof onto the prosecution and that the prosecution has to prove that damage was done to their client? Plus there is a presumed (albeit often unwarranted) assumption of innocence until proven guilty. Even more puzzling and perhaps why there a presumption of innocence, is that if these clients were not targets of the wiretaps, then how does the government prove that it did not happen. I thought it was theoretically impossible to prove a negative?

Hey "AO member - Negative" Can you prove that you really exist? :D I might let you quote DesCartes (sp?)

Seriously though, I do believe that the Administration should have brought the targeted wiretaps to the attention of the FISA court within the 72 hours alloted by FISA. But this is also not settled law either. Historically most cases of this ilk noting judicial precedent have fallen favorably for the Government and the President's Executive Powers. "Shrug"

OverdueSpy

I have not killed you...........this I shall prove to the court by emptying this 9mm automatic weapon into your scabby carcass.............if you are THEN found to be DOA, I could not have done it previously?

It is a rocky road that they tread methinks?

Time to sick the IRS onto the bastiges I would say. Hell, if you are government, you have the whip hand...........so crack it?

:D