Photos that will never make the news.

tinkerbell69,

You fail to see the lessons of Vietnam...if a policeman draws a gun on you after he has pulled you over it is likely because of the lessons of the past...soldiers today have to worry about things that soldiers of the past didn't have to...they have to be prepared for anything...is that a baby in that bundle or explosives...get my point?!

I don't think anyone would argue that what happened to the prisoners was wrong...but you cannot fault soldiers for wanting to protect themselves and their comrades...the next time you see a police officer throw a person on the ground try to remember that 99 times out of 100 he's doing his job so that no one suffers more than a few bruises and scratches. You may call it over-reacting...I call it reasonable protection.

I totally get your point. However it doesn't justify a policeman to pull a gun on every car stop. if they had time to talk about the guy who was pretending to be dead and joke about it, then they had time to pull his blanket off and make sure he didnt have a bundle of explosives on him.

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then they had time to pull his blanket off and make sure he didnt have a bundle of explosives on him.

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Are you mad? by the time you see a bundle of explosives, it's to late. You are already dead and so is anyone near you. Soldiers are trained to remove a threat, not deal with a threat in a media friendly manner.

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Get your facts straight! They don't go into particular suspicious house. They go into a neighborhood and strip every freaking place! Pretty much how the nazis did with the jews.

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You, get your facts straight, the nazis rounded up the Jews and transported them to consentration camps then gassed them......Not happening yet, unless you are privy to news the rest of us are not............Please tell me owe wise one, how do you pinpoint a suspiciouse house in a neighborhood...............Is it the one that has painted on the outside, "bad guys here".

Ok Tink, let's address your last couple of posts from the viewpoint of one who's actually been there and done that.

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BS! it is not your normal job. if so, why are we praising them for? Who cares if they leave their family for over a year behind, right? Who cares that they have to wear a bullet proof vest and walk around with guns to shoot ppl who wanna kill them? That's normal!

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You are full of ****. You quite obviously have never served your country in any capacity. In my time served in the Navy my job was VERY 9-5 and VERY like a 'real job' in the civilian sector when not at war. You see, I was an electrician. I specialized in motor rewinding and motor controller repairs, and served 'double duty' in my ship's electrical power plant as well. Often I was called to other commands or even ashore to assist other units in all branches of service with motor/generator related issues. When in home port, I spent 1 day in 5 actually sleeping onboard ship. The rest of the time I was required to work from 8am to 5pm at my primary job.

All that to say: Ooooops! You're an idiot. Strike one.

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First of all, I wasn't aware that I needed an X amount of posts to express my ideas in this forum. I thought that's what AO addicts was for. Secondly, you don't have to get personal, I'm probably older then you , have a sh!tload of responsibilities in my life right now and my Job is pretty close to a military one.

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I seriously doubt you're older than Foxyloxley, however I don't count you a child. I do, however, count you now as a SCREAMING idiot. You cannot compare your responsibilities in your cushy civilian life to those of a servicemember - they're not anywhere close. I'm quite sure you don't float around the earth on a 58000 ton battleship, I'm quite sure you're not responsible for a multimillion dollar electrical plant, or the lives of 1500 other men should your plant fail during combat operations. Get a clue. Strike 2.

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I totally get your point. However it doesn't justify a policeman to pull a gun on every car stop. if they had time to talk about the guy who was pretending to be dead and joke about it, then they had time to pull his blanket off and make sure he didnt have a bundle of explosives on him.

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The local police departments are the closest profession to the military a person can get into. They put their lives on the line every single day for your safety. For the record, a policeman *can* pull his weapon any time he sees fit to do so, even on every single car stop if he wishes. The reason they don't is out of courtesy to whomever they've stopped and not wanting to incite panic in that person. It's a choice the cop makes, policy cannot and will not set that for him.

Whups! that's strike 3. Wrong on all counts. Your credibility is completely shot now and forever. You just graduated to being a complete numbnuts.

Now that I'm quite finished shooting down your imbicilic statements, I shall attempt to teach you one simple lesson:

If you haven't been there yourself, don't presume your opinion will count for anything.

For your information I am a cop and no, we're not allowed to draw our weapons on every car stop. With that being said

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You are full of ****. You quite obviously have never served your country in any capacity

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wrong...strike one

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You are full of ****. You quite obviously have never served your country in any capacity. In my time served in the Navy my job was VERY 9-5 and VERY like a 'real job' in the civilian sector when not at war

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Yeah, i do get easy days at my job too, but when the sh1t hits the fan, my cushioned ass as you mentioned goes to battle. Strike two..

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You cannot compare your responsibilities in your cushy civilian life to those of a servicemember - they're not anywhere close.

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wrong again, strike 3

Are we even now? Who's the flaming idiot making dumb judgement here?

Wow. A bona-fide policeman eh? Then I'm sure you're fully aware of what the definition of probable cause is. I'm also quite sure you're aware of 'reasonable suspicion'. Tell me then - if an officer has 'reasonable suspicion' of a threat, is he allowed to draw his weapon?

While we're on topic genious, tell me about a 'felony stop'.

You're still the flaming idiot - more so because you as a supposed police officer cannot justify a HOUSE TO HOUSE SEARCH.

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Yanno, there's a story my best friend told me long ago about cops...

It seems that when recruiting potential officers, the powers that be look for a certain mentality. They don't want someone too stupid or folks will run completely over him. They don't want someone too intelligent either, or he'll get bored and not stick to the job. They recruit for somewhere between below average and average intelligence. Ok, so we've got a case of 'not the brightest bulb in the box' out on his beat. Now add to that (at least in my home state) the local 'redneck' mindset - and that the vast majority of city, county, and state police here are rednecks. Now stick a gun on his hip. Whups! You now have a bona-fide Texas cop - by purest definition, a dumbass redneck with a gun and an attitude.

Have an |ce day Barney.

Oh, wait a minute... let's hit the obvious too - Tinkerbell 69... are you queer, or female?

tinkerbell69 your thoughts are more deluded than a junkie with a head full of crack.

PS: er0k left like most of the left wing zealots on this board. Querulous then whiny then ornery liberal mood swings. They have more periods then pu$$y walls. ;)

tinkerbell69,

" it doesn't justify a policeman to pull a gun on every car stop "...this statement shows that you are not a cop...because if you were you would have identified yourself as such then, instead of speaking of the profession as a distant.

You have to remember you are speaking primarily to very intelligent adults, they may disagree with you, they may even flame you, but when you lie to create a false image of yourself ( eg, I am a policeman ) even if you were to say something right you have no credibility left to support it.

Hmm. A whole half hour and our "cop" hasnt responded. Perhaps he (she? it?) got sunk by such a barrage as ours. I suppose at this point we can add 'lying sack of ****' to the list of names we address tinkerbell69 with.

I didn't respond because I work midnights. Black ice, I was replying to a statement made that it is "justified to pull a gun on every car stop". Now if I pull someone over for brakelights or seatbelt, I run the plate, because I would like to know beforehand who i'm dealing with. if everything comes out clear.. what's my probable cause? Why is it even reasonable suspicion? How does that become a felony car stop? Now if that driver pops up with a warrant and he's wanted for a major crime, the story changes. But in most cases, that doesn't happen. So I'm justified to pull a gun on a female who's driving her kid to school? Based on what?

Also your recruiting theory is shady. If that was true, how would we have bosses on the job? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to pass a sargeants test? Did you know that the captains exam requires more or less the same amount of studying as a lawyer? Do you have any idea the kind of judgement and responsibility you have when you place those cuffs on someone?

How is my gender or sexual orientation relevant to the subject? The guy who created this site is gay, and his partner is a cop , so your racist comments towards gays and cops has no place in this website.

Egaladeist, if you are so inteligent as you claim to be, don't doubt who I am. Cuz you're looking stupid.