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Linen: Do you always spout such unadulterated, unthought out crap or are you just having a bad day?
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Examples please... Without reference to conspiracies.... Proven examples would be nice... ;) You won't be able to come up with anything thing worse than your government keeping you lot up there and not letting you come south where it's warmer... :pQuote:
and American governments are not an exception
That merely demonstrates the propensity of the media for spewing out sensational bullcrap............they said at first that there were eight bombs in Central London back then..............there weren't ;)Quote:
You know. I was watching the news live on 9/11. Even on the radio, I heard a total of 8 aircrafts were hijacked.
Hi TS,
I already mentioned one earlier...the tainting of water with syphlis to which Clinton admitted and apologized for.
Granted most of these crimes were committed during American most racist period ( anytime pre 1970 ) against blacks, asians, and latinos...does that excuse it?
I don't think so.
I can't think of anything specific post 1970.
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I must have missed that one.... Two things spring to mind.... It was done under a democrat government and a democrat president was apologizing... So the left wing media they have here didn't make a big deal of it... What would have happened if I replaced the word "democrat" with "republican"... Yep, you're right, the pygmies in the deepest Amazon jungle would be intimately familiar with the whole thing.... :D
Hi TS,
Just to give you an update :DQuote:
From 1932 through 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service allowed more than 400 black men to go untreated for syphilis after offering them free medical care. The men were never told they were part of a study, clinically named the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, nor were they informed they had syphilis.
Government doctors failed to offer the standard treatment method, mercury and arsenic, when it became available. Nor did doctors offer penicillin shots once it became the standard method of curing the disease. The men received treatment only after the experiment became public in 1972.
By that time, 28 men had died of syphilis, 100 others were dead of related complications, 40 wives and 19 newborns had been infected.
The government a few years later paid the survivors and relatives $10 million for damages but without a formal apology.
But granted things seem to have improved dramatically since 1972.
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http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/...is%20Study.htm
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study
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The website, www.tuskegee.edu/bioethics, is the official website of the Tuskegee University National Center for Bioethics. This center was created in 1999 as a result of President Clinton’s 1997 apology to the participants of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. In his 1997 speech, President Clinton called for the establishment of a center for “bioethics in research and health care.” He described that “the center will serve as a museum of the study and support efforts to address its legacy and strengthen bioethics training.” The website claims that the center is “the nation’s first initiative dedicated to the inclusion of African Americans and other communities of color in response to issues of human values in science, technology, and society.”
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Thanks... But my thoughts are borne out there... Those are, for the largest part "The Democrat Years".... ;)
Ok, back to the wild and stupid conspiracy theories about How GWB and OBL are actually the same person and that's why we can't find him... *snikker*
hi TS,
I don't believe a guy with 200 million dollars ever lived in a cave ;)...he's either in America or in a palace in Saudia Arabia ( with a cave simulation in the basement for his previous video opts ).
If you want someone to not find you the rule is to make them believe you're somewhere you're not ;)
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If he's in the USA then GWB is screwed for his legacy, 'cos we don't even know which state he's in, let alone the county... so that's 7 years times 50, (States), times [how many counties]...
We'll all be dead before we find him... :eek:
Hmm well "free" in the USA and the UK/Canada are two different things when it comes to medicare.
And if I were a male negro back in 1932, I don't think that I would have accepted treatment with "mercury and arsenic" either (like if the arsenic didn't work they used the mercury to make explosive bullets? :p )
I have seen studies of different racial groups conducted by the military, but these were purely to assess combat effectiveness in different environments.
Incidentally, you don't catch syphillis from toilet seats?..............and Winston Churchill's father had it ;)
Earlier experiments into nuclear, biological and chemical warfare got the US and British military into trouble as well. You are not supposed to use your own servicemen as it happens.
Spilled into civvy meds as well, anyone remember "thalidomide"?
Hey it wasn't just Americans that the Gov't was messing around with as far as Gov't conspiracies....
Project MKULTRAQuote:
Project MKULTRA (also known as MK-ULTRA) was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program lasting from the 1950s[1], and continued until the late 1960s[2]. There is much published evidence that the project involved not only the use of drugs to manipulate persons, but also the use of electronic signals to alter brain functioning.[3]
It was first brought to wide public attention by the U.S. Congress (in the form of the Church Committee) and a presidential commission (known as the Rockefeller Commission) (see Revelation below) and also to the U.S. Senate.
On the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy said:
"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over 30 universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."[4]
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More than 250 unsuspecting patients eligible for compensation, according to Canadian ruling. Critics of CIA-funded mind control programs call attention to the fact they are still going on today, as referenced in declassified documents calling attention to sinister operations called Bluebird/Artichoke and MKULTRA.
Don't know if they were Rep or Dem's, but they interfered regardless...so even though I don't believe Dubya is that smart to have pulled one over on the people, it is not outside the realm of possibilities...
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