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I usually just lurk here but this thread has me very interested. I have two teenagers. They both have computers in their rooms and I will be hooking them up to a network. I'll be using filters on the router(Netgear FW318) and limiting access times. I'm very involved with my kids, I know their friends, we climb together, listen to music together, etc. I trust them, but I will check logs to see where they are going. One of my kids suffers from depression, so I am more concerned about his activities, but I won't install a key logger. They do not use IRC but do use AIM.
TechieChick,
Do you have an outline for the security class that you do? Have you contacted PTA's about doing a class at the high schools? This topic has me thinking of putting something together for my PTA. I know one problem with that idea is that the involved parents will show up and the apathetic ones won't, but it may interest parents who want to do something but don't know how.
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Originally posted here by seemunkee
I usually just lurk here but this thread has me very interested. I have two teenagers. They both have computers in their rooms and I will be hooking them up to a network. I'll be using filters on the router(Netgear FW318) and limiting access times. I'm very involved with my kids, I know their friends, we climb together, listen to music together, etc. I trust them, but I will check logs to see where they are going. One of my kids suffers from depression, so I am more concerned about his activities, but I won't install a key logger. They do not use IRC but do use AIM.
TechieChick,
Do you have an outline for the security class that you do? Have you contacted PTA's about doing a class at the high schools? This topic has me thinking of putting something together for my PTA. I know one problem with that idea is that the involved parents will show up and the apathetic ones won't, but it may interest parents who want to do something but don't know how.
The ideas are AWESOME....let's keep it up :).
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I want to let you guys know that this afternoon I'm gonna be leaving to go up to our house in Maine. I'm going to TRY to get online up there with my laptop but I don't know how it's gonna work out (lack of local nodes). I want to say that when it comes to this thread, and ALL the threads at Antionline, that this community is AWESOME, and I'm damn proud to be a part of it :D. Let's keep this thread alive and the ideas flowing :). I'll be back here on Tuesday.
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Safe travels to you Ratman,
Maybe I'll see you on I-95. I heading up to Maine myself this weekend
Anyway
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Some updates on the case:
http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp...3&nav=0Rde9CUW
AND A FORUM WAS HELD UP HERE ON INTERNET SAFETY:
http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp...v=0Rde9CUW9Drv
It's about time. The only sad part was that it took this poor girl's death to make people realise how vulnerable they really are. :(
BTW Got online here in Maine :)
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So Lets do it!
I think the idea of a booklet is a very very good one.
From experience it's hard to get people to read books that they don't want to read, but giving them the information is half the battle.
As for it's the "not my kid" parents, why not include a page / section entitled "It's not my kid" setting out the obvious fact that kids are curious, and prone to running with the crowd, and explaining the importance of online supervision.
Going on step further, I'd like to propose that some of us put together such a booklet, and volunteer a few days of my time to assist with the project. After all our kids are our most important resource. (that and i'm sick of explaining to kids / cops pretending to be kids that 13 year old girls shouldn't be on certain IRC servers.
We could mail the finished article to the big companies in our countries, and try to get them to print it up, and roll it out. (what's the harm in trying)
The only cost to us is a few hours each. The possible gains are immeasurable.
Hell, i'll give it a go myself if peeps wanna take a few moments, and PM their thoughts. If I can get it looking OK, i'll even mail it to the department of Education here, and some of our bigger PC suppliers.
Regards
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I disagree with starting large, I think it needs to start locally and grow from there.
I've offered parental/child contracts to parents that are along the line of the SADD contracts. These are built on trust and encourage interaction between parent and child. If a parent walks into a room and the child quickly minimizes the window or closes their IM program that alone is an alert.
I've received permission from the sites owner to use this contract for my classes and for distribution. I reprint it, giving the site credit and hand it to parents with an explanation of what they need to be aware of.
While I like the idea of mailing the larger companies, it's probably not going to get us anywhere very fast. As I was typing this I had a thought, what about contacting companies like Norton (they alreday include OEM versions of their AV proggies on new systems, why not their internet security program as well? Net Nanny is another that comes to mind, yes..I know they are fairly easy to crack for the experienced but they are not our target right now.
Just more random thoughts from the extremely congested, cold medicated, not having a warm memorial weeken mind of TC.
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Originally posted here by TechieChick
I disagree with starting large, I think it needs to start locally and grow from there.
I've offered parental/child contracts to parents that are along the line of the SADD contracts. These are built on trust and encourage interaction between parent and child. If a parent walks into a room and the child quickly minimizes the window or closes their IM program that alone is an alert.
I've received permission from the sites owner to use this contract for my classes and for distribution. I reprint it, giving the site credit and hand it to parents with an explanation of what they need to be aware of.
While I like the idea of mailing the larger companies, it's probably not going to get us anywhere very fast. As I was typing this I had a thought, what about contacting companies like Norton (they alreday include OEM versions of their AV proggies on new systems, why not their internet security program as well? Net Nanny is another that comes to mind, yes..I know they are fairly easy to crack for the experienced but they are not our target right now.
Just more random thoughts from the extremely congested, cold medicated, not having a warm memorial weeken mind of TC.
Nice Idea TC :)
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Re: So Lets do it!
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Originally posted here by bofhandpfy
I think the idea of a booklet is a very very good one.
From experience it's hard to get people to read books that they don't want to read, but giving them the information is half the battle.
As for it's the "not my kid" parents, why not include a page / section entitled "It's not my kid" setting out the obvious fact that kids are curious, and prone to running with the crowd, and explaining the importance of online supervision.
Going on step further, I'd like to propose that some of us put together such a booklet, and volunteer a few days of my time to assist with the project. After all our kids are our most important resource. (that and i'm sick of explaining to kids / cops pretending to be kids that 13 year old girls shouldn't be on certain IRC servers.
We could mail the finished article to the big companies in our countries, and try to get them to print it up, and roll it out. (what's the harm in trying)
The only cost to us is a few hours each. The possible gains are immeasurable.
Hell, i'll give it a go myself if peeps wanna take a few moments, and PM their thoughts. If I can get it looking OK, i'll even mail it to the department of Education here, and some of our bigger PC suppliers.
Regards
Another great idea :) If we can start changing attitudes we will make some headway here.
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I think they guy should have his balls cut off just for having anything, such sexual relationships with a sixth grader, not only is it morally wrong.. ITS THE LAW, and lets face the cold facts the girl was probably flattered that an older guy likes her, when GIRLS wear provocative (sp?) clothing I consider it a cry for attention, they cant get attention from home where they need it, so they exploit themselves[hoping to get attention from anyone, ANYONE at all who might be a passer by]. What boggles MY mind is how can any RATIONAL adult take advantage of this poor CHILD? However, I'm not the police but if I was, I’d put this guy in the same cell as a fat guy named bubba who'd make the guy his bitch, and afterwards just cut body parts off piece by piece. I don't live in the same state as ratman2, which is the reason I probably haven't heard about this, instead this ignorant cheese head state talks about how they invented another cheese. Almost every household has access to the Internet, and many have kids, why doesn't the media show this story and its consequences? There are more people at fault than the parents and the man. I, however, happen to blame the ****ing-imbicille-crackhead-****ed~up-mother****er who did this to the kid. God not have mercy on his soul.
Thanx for reading, Jan
