Correct. But actually getting the right information to trace back to a particular person wouldn't be easy.
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Correct. But actually getting the right information to trace back to a particular person wouldn't be easy.
I use zcw (http://www.cyberabuse.org) and AbuseNet (http://www.abuse.net) to cross check my addresses for abuse complaints. They stay up-to-date and have a high reliability.
Here's an AOL lookup using zcw:
[ Informations about 172.145.56.102 ]
IP range : 172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255
Network name : AOL-172BLK
Infos : America Online
Infos : 22000 AOL Way
Infos : Dulles
Infos : VA
Infos : 20166
Country : United States of America (US)
Abuse E-mail : [email protected]
Source : ARIN
This is what my BlackListed page uses.
My biggest headache as a system administrator is simply greed infested businesses and ISPs that rather promote spam and the illegal phishing scams.
Yep, the U.S. leads in spam with China and Russia picking up the second and third spots respectively.
So what does this say about laws locally or abroad? No one who makes laws is capable of carving legislation that chokes this stuff at the source is what it tells me. Why? Because those who are making the laws truly do not understand the beast they deal with. Let's also not forget about those politicians who get greased by special interest groups, marketers and such and in the process, ram it right up your a$$. Who cares about spam when you're getting a nice under the table cash flow to support your hooker, dope and yacht expenses. Sadly, I'm not joking.
At the end of the day, you're left to defend yourself against the onslaught of penis enlargement spam, King Jaffoo and his need to transfer $110,000,000 to your bank account, etc.
This leads me down the road of proposed technical solutions including, but not limited to secure DNS (SDNS) and various RFC drafts for verified e-mail senders/receivers via (dare I say) add on protocols or additions to existing messaging protocols (SMTP, POP3, IMAP, etc.).
If you want to know who the real victim is, that's easy; it's me. I have to constantly tune SPAM appliances, I have to submit abuse info to ASN net ops, I have to bitch at end users (high impact awareness training) about clicking on the dancing money to win a prize, and so on.
AOL poses a very special problem when blocking subscribers. Since all their traffic routes through their Dulles facility and because they have hundreds of netblocks AND because your trouble user can get an address assigned from any of those netblock pools, the administrative dance you need to do to keep nasty folks from AOL in check becomes tiresome. The good news is that some of their OPS people have finally joined the vetted mailing list and I can now hand over the info and they handle my issues quickly from within. For those who do not have that luxury, I weep.
--TH13
Sounds like AOL .... awkward to the end :) I have to say they keep spam out of my inbox very efficiently though, from an end user point of view.
Actually, I have to say that china has been making progress. The only ISP from china that I still see in my longs in hinet.net. Other than that, I get next to nothing from china and russia. the 4-1-9 on the other hand, now thats a blooming scurge to the universe and I never thought the human race was filled with so many stupid people that actually belive a strange person from GOD knows where is actually going to find some benefactor for $<whatever> millions???Quote:
Originally Posted by thehorse13
Intellegience is truly endangered and stupidity is pandemic.
It tells me that there are less corrupt and greedy lawmakers abroad then local. I believe they do understand and don't give a damned as long as their pockets are filled.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehorse13
My basic point is there is still no excuse we can't fix our own backyard.
Perhaps its time to bring back the boycott... It worked well against netscape.com.
AOL is one of the easiest ISPs I've had to work with. They're quick, responsive and lightening harsh on spammers. Though I do have to agree on the admins less fortunate. I guess there is something to be said about being a chronic pain in someone's @$$...Quote:
Originally Posted by thehorse13
frpeter, whilst I personally applaud you enthusiasm, I hate to have to rain on your parade :(
If you get sorted in the USA and we get sorted in the EU it will still be a drop in the ocean?
HEY, if the EU reduce carbon and greenhouse gasses emissions by 25%......... it will have no effect whilst China and India and the USA carry on as they are?
I am reminded of the expression:
"It is like teaching a pig how to sing.............it is a waste of your time; and frequently annoys the pig"
:D
nihil, a few people echo the sentiments of frpeter. Seb and Andrew from Adslguide (now known as ThinkBroadband) said they were most impressed by them when they were being added to the site. Completing all the requests very efficiently, they took Seb and Andrew out to lunch even (so that's where my subscription goes :( )
That account also gets less spam than any other - by a long way.
One drop less is one drop less and at least an attempt in moving in the right direction. If we make no attempt then we gain nothing. To try and fail is a success, you still gain knowledge and wisdom. To not try at all is truly a failure with nothing gained.Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
If everyone cleaned up their own backyards, before you know it, there be no spam.
Moira,
I go back to the original post................ block China, Nigeria and a whole host of others...................:D
frpeter was complaining about this in his original post?
I say do it and be damned :fpissed:
No prisoners, no surrender?............. have you noticed that "war criminals" are always on the losing side?
;)
Blocking China and Nieria isn't going to stop spam that goes through broken relays. Nice idea, but not practical though. Administrators fixing their machines would however have an effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
I'm still getting hits from machines infected with Code Red...