Jupiter Media Screws AntiOnline Founder

Hey first Jupman I bet you earned each and everyone of those points.

Jupman---> let's see how can I make myself look cool to the members. Idea give myself alot of points.

Ok it is the simple fact that if the site is getting the same or around the same mount of views why are you not going to give the man his money.

(Pre-note i am probably going to get banned for this.) **** oh well.

Ok you guys were not like most corporate teams you would probably of left alot of the things the same. What is the old statement don't just change things to change them. Oh well.

So first you screwed up the man's site, then you wouldn't pay the man. Last you try to hide this thread that is just sad.

So let's see

(Before Jupitermedia acquired the site, we told JP generally how we thought it would be necessary to run AO if it was to survive as a free site for members (you will remember he was trying to sell it for a long time before we came to terms). He agreed with this and said as long as we provided a site that concentrated on security issues, the site would continue to be healthy.)


Well if I tell you that if you buy a car and just pu gas in it and drive it everyday. for a couple years will that car still run NO. why probably because there are things that need to be done to keep up the maintenace of the car. Same thing with the website.

Listen to your members. I haven't been here that long but I have heard about how it was a while ago it was definately better from what I have heard.

I don't quite know what's wrong with your company. Or your thought pattern but let me tell you something that maybe you didn'y know. Guess what this sight is commonly talked about in books that is how a lot of lpeople heard about the sight so that there is a waythta will get you more members.

But oh well another day of ranting.

Whizki2300

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but a lack of site documentation

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What a lame excuse. Vbulletin is well documented. HTML, PHP and MySQL are self-explainatory. :p With such a large corperation with guys that crank code all day long should be able to figure the **** out.

Yep. I can see this in court...

Also, I do not see JP getting the site back either. I think he has bigger fish to fry, bigger projects in the works and hotter guys by the poolside to look at.

I wish both sides the best of luck.

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So, unfortunately the next place that I'll be seeing my friends from Jupiter Media is in court.....

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My general rule of thumb is that the one who threatens to sue is usually the one
to blame. If any one is harming the site, it is you. New members who have arrived
only recently don't give a **** about your pathetic whining. Get over it and grow up.
When you had the site it was down every other day from DOS attacks from your
old school enemies. If you didn't cover your ass when you sold it, chalk it up as one
of life's lessons learned and don't impose your problems on users who don't
even know you, much less care about your intricate legal dealings.
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Originally posted by Whizkids2003
Last you try to hide this thread that is just sad.

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It's nice to know that people don't even take the time to read a thread before they formulate their opinion. I moved the thread from Newbie Security Questions to General Chit Chat. I did read the thread: it's not security-related, therefore doesn't belong on the main page. It was posted in Newbie Security Questions with the only purpose of having it show up on the main page. In my opinion, this discussion doesn't even belong on AO, let alone in a security-forum.

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(especially the AO system)

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oh yes the AP** sysem .. ;) ....

by the way if the site goes down we stiil can go and register at http://www.security-forums.com/ the site aint that good as AO was but it will be a place to share our ideas and knowledge ....just my suggestion :) ...or we wait till JP build a new websites and all go join it , i know i will be one of the first to join it ...

i know that me and tonybradley are registered at Security Forums .... i dont browse and post at that site much because i still like AO better ... if i have a problem i'd first come here then go to SF.com .....

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Originally posted here by rcgreen


My general rule of thumb is that the one who threatens to sue is usually the one
to blame. If any one is harming the site, it is you. New members who have arrived
only recently don't give a **** about your pathetic whining. Get over it and grow up.
When you had the site it was down every other day from DOS attacks from your
old school enemies. If you didn't cover your ass when you sold it, chalk it up as one
of life's lessons learned and don't impose your problems on users who don't
even know you, much less care about your intricate legal dealings.
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bold, but well said.... bold.

Just a note...the worst agitators in this thread are people who signed up in 2001, who havent posted anything in a loong time...hell the yhaven't been here in a long time...my guess, RL friends of JP who he brought back with him in this attempt to poision the well on AO. For those of us who are new here read the attrtion.org info about JP before you rush in to support him, from what I can tell the number of blackhats and script kiddies has drop after he left.

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Originally posted here by alittlebitnumb
What a lame excuse. Vbulletin is well documented. HTML, PHP and MySQL are self-explainatory. :p With such a large corperation with guys that crank code all day long should be able to figure the **** out.

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Although you have to admit that is has gone through a lot of revisioning over time, especially insofar as the AP system has been added.

I'm not really sure what to think here---because the posting public don't see the contract, we don't see the ad impression logs, and we don't see the documentation (or lack thereof). Not that I'm complaining, or asking for it to change, I'm just stating facts.

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I'm not really sure what to think here---because the posting public don't see the contract, we don't see the ad impression logs, and we don't see the documentation (or lack thereof).

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That's a good point there Terr. However, Christina did point out there is a VBulletin mod that resembles the AP System, and mods are well documented. However, the mod and what JP implimented could be totally different and not the mod at all and is all assumptions.

For anyone who is confused by "intmons" post in this thread and missed the brief spamming by "him" The "gold dot" account intmon used got 0wn3d last night. The front page had 25-30 postings on it asking silly questions and such. It was quite humerous but short lived . I am assuming thats why jupman has greens instead of a gold dot. The troubles are sad , but hell i love to see a corporation get roasted.(especially a marketing corp.)