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troops are not trained yet for urban assault, door to door, house to house battles. people in civies, people from your neighbourhoods fighting against you who do you target

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The British Army has been fighting 'urban' warfare for over 30 years: Ulster: The ultimate training ground.
Don't tell me you thought it was being done for the benefit of the locals ...........................

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If USA doesnt need the oil that much, why invade Iraq in the first place? to Shutdown Saddan,

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Saddam was head of a Nation State. It is only with the backing of nation states that the terrorist can grow without fear of retribution.
He was also guilty of calling on a pair of dueces. He strode the world stage making like he was THE man.

Rule 1 : When playing big boys games. You play by the big boys rules.

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If it was that easy, USA would invaded Iran 10 years ago. But it cant. Why? Because its easy to say, hard to do. Except if USA send 1,000 nukes there and kill everybody... but it will destroy oil fields too

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Like hell it would destroy the oil fields ............ At worst, it would destroy the surface infra-structure. At best, use of neutron weapons would leave EVERYTHING standing [bar the inhabitants, of course]

And the ONLY time that ANY Arabic army has fought well, was when the Israeli Army put women into the front line .............. Arabs were determined NOT to be beaten by a WOMAN ........ Mind you it bites both ways. When a woman was shot, a dozen men would rush to her side, to help her back to the MASH unit.

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Originally posted here by bballad
Tedob1: takeing what extreamest do and claiming it stood for all members of a religion is a very dangerous stance. By that logic I could say that christians beleive that its ok to kill atholics because they are evil and worship the devil, Jack Chick said so.

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B...thats not what im saying at all.

im saying the terrorists are performing such attrocious acts to incite reactions from those they attack that will affect muslims in general. right not i think most muslims believe that the west is not waging war on islam despite the claims of the fundamentalists but how will they feel is russia with the blessings of the west invade iran or syria or begin their own horiffic campaign in the caucausis? once retaliation to these acts of terror starts, and it must, it will be rather easy to cause it to get out of hand with some more attrocious acts. how do you think muslims in general would react to detainmemt camps? or shelling uban areas with nerve gas even if its the morphine type used in moscow?

Bballad, extremism is Islam is much more tolerated on a global scale than extreme christianity. The basis of Mhammed's word - is to convert.

from an article entitled Russia shapes plan of attack:

On a piece of white cloth inside an escape hole dug into the gym wall are written the words, "Here began the Third World War - against Terror."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0910/p07s02-woeu.html

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Russia comes to grips with the magnitude of the Beslan tragedy - with the death of some 330 hostages, the secondmost lethal terror attack in recent history after Sept. 11, 2001.

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How many more of these until everyone agrees it's time to stop playing panzy UN talks and wipe the floor with every single one of these scumbags and everyone attached in any way to them?

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Originally posted here by cacosapo

but why not rush to defend poor countries on affrica against each other? ahn, because they are POOR and has no value to USA.
(subliminal rocks :P )

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HI Cacosapo. To correct a misnoma ........ Remember Somalia?! And what About Liberia?! US Sent Soldiers to Somalia, then they got killed like dogs, set up for ambush and boom boom boom. btw, Somalia is only country still that is run by warlords rather than a government........... Liberia, US Sent in marines after the French could not hold the Rebels Back. Get this, The MArines Landed on Docks and the Rebels immediately Enterred into talks to end the rebellion. Charles Taylor runs and voila ... no more war. They dont want to disarm, (The Rebels that is), so US sends 1 aircraft carrier, wow, peace treaty signed, government of national unity in place, dictator loses, democracy wins, game over.

Also, no one country gives more aide to africa than the US..... the country (US) realises its humanatarian importance, btw, bill gates paid for and fully funded a schools network for our rural communities. it cost millions, and he paid, btw, the computers on these networks run fedora .go figure, but please brother, i just wanted to rectify you on that statement ............... peace and love ............. I also think that they the (US government USAID) are very humble, they do not bring big launches, but you ask any government official in most african countries, they all get massive amounts of aide from the USofA........ DARFUR anyone. That has been going on since time immemorial. here arab militia were slaughtering the Christian dominated west Sudan. (This Happened at an increased rate since Osama spent quite a few Bob in Sudan building Infrastructure there)....... So Colin Pwell makes a speech and hey ho... the world takes note?! why?! where was amnesty international then?! Viva USA VIVA ............

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Originally posted here by foxyloxley
The British Army has been fighting 'urban' warfare for over 30 years: Ulster: The ultimate training ground.
Don't tell me you thought it was being done for the benefit of the locals ...........................

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Hi foxyloxley....... Ireland, is that not the case for self-determination? And yes, I will agree, the battles there have been house to house, but not on the scale I speak of, say Bradford or Bradistan as I think its called ?! hahahaha ....... Lets say the stuff hits the fan and everyone there goes for extermists point of view, and they launch an attack, how do you differetiate between an enemy combattant and someone just walking up the road!? Tanks?! Curfews?! ala The movie The Siege?! whatabout people in the neighbourhood who do not share these peoples views for example?! is it cut and dry?! and who will make the curry at the end of the day?!

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Also, no one country gives more aide to africa than the US..... the country (US) realises its humanatarian importance, btw, bill gates paid for and fully funded a schools network for our rural communities. it cost millions, and he paid, btw, the computers on these networks run fedora .go figure, but please brother, i just wanted to rectify you on that statement ............... peace and love ............. I also think that they the (US government USAID) are very humble, they do not bring big launches, but you ask any government official in most african countries, they all get massive amounts of aide from the USofA........ DARFUR anyone. That has been going on since time immemorial. here arab militia were slaughtering the Christian dominated west Sudan. (This Happened at an increased rate since Osama spent quite a few Bob in Sudan building Infrastructure there)....... So Colin Pwell makes a speech and hey ho... the world takes note?! why?! where was amnesty international then?! Viva USA VIVA ............

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That all depends on how you look at, of course ;)
The US give $23.76 per capita per year on foreign aid. Luxembourg gives $352.30 per capita per year... There are at least 20 other countries who give "more" than the US (a LOT more).

Also, if you look at the absolute figures, Japan is giving more (according to the CIA factbook): $9.1 billion Vs. $6.9 billion.

If you look at the foreign aid per $GDP, it's even "worse": $0.06 per $100 (at least 20 countries give more than that; Denmark gives $1.04 per $100... that's 15 times more).

Not trying to deny the US's foreign aid, but don't go saying that they're the top donor... they're not - by far.

And BTW: Amnesty International has been in Sudan for quite some time already... they've been screaming this out for ages. The world took note a long time ago already.

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..... Remember Somalia?! And what About Liberia?

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forgot those two, thanks. Somalia is that help where that movie "Black hawk down" is "located", right?

yeap, it was a bad time for US troops. Its damn hard to fight far from home on a non-regular war...

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Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

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Ok i'm making some progress with translating the Quran. Sorry for the delay but i'm having a hard time translating the prayers too which are in arabic.

That quote is missleading. Everyone who knows the story, knows that those who worship fake gods, will be punished. AFAIK that goes the same for both Muslim and Christian religion. Now the proper quote is:

"And when the holy months are passing, fight the idolaters wherever u find them, enslave them and entrap them on every corner. If they repent, let them go because indeed Allah is the merciful"

The quote is followed by this:

"And if an idolater seeks a shelter, they're to be sheltered in a way to hear the word of Allah, and after to be accompined(escorted) until the place where they're safe. This if they're from a population whom do not know the truth of islam".....I do not see the word kill/slay anywhere in there.

I have to get going, I'll post more soon.