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OK, like Zen~ I think that this subject has been somewhat "overworked" of late :)
However, as we have a number of students as visitors and members, I thought that this paper on the subject might be useful:
http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs3604/lib...n.Hacking.html
It is more history/etymology than ethics and morality.
Most people asked to write a paper on "hacking" would go technical/ethical/moral..............if you incorporate a bit of this stuff, your paper should stand out above the rest ;)
That is called "examination technique" not "cheating"
:D
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Hi zencoder,
I actually just posted the OP because I thought it was interesting...then...8 replies later I decided to stick my neck in :D...
there are three things I noticed about this thread...
1. most of the replies came from newbies...
2. the internet seems to lack the clear understanding and value of property rights...
and...
3. 60 posts and 1775 veiws later...more than three times the veiws of any other thread started lately...this topic obviously is no where near the point of lack of interest...even if it has been overdone
Eg ;)
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Hey EG~ I think that it was your "catchy title" that did it :D
Seriously though, I think that the subject is of interest to our student readers because it is a favourite for essays/discussions/papers.
That is why I stuck that link in ;)
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Originally posted here by warl0ck7
It is never too late or unvalauable to discuss basics and ethics.
I agree completely! Here here!!! (or is it Hear hear?)
Can we please DO THAT instead of attacking people and complaining about whether a word is used properly or not by the massmedia/technophile subculture/suburban AOL community?
Do I consider myself a hacker? Does it matter? Do I think hackers are good, bad, ugly, indifferent, or <insert your word of choice here>? DOES IT REALLY MATTER?
C'mon people. Use a little common sense, and try to recognize what context the poster is using the word in. I use 'hacker' all the time, both the positive and the negative connotations. In spoken communication, I can usually tell if my meaning has been misinterpreted. It's basic friggin' human interaction.
Get over yourselves. You are hardly as important or influential as you think you are. Hell, I have to tell myself this same thing every day.
Quote:
Originally posted here by DjM
Hey zen, is "My Superman ego " our old "special" friend?
I dunno, but it sure seems that way.
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Hi nihil,
I agree...this seems like a topic most geared toward newbies/students...as per the posts...I tried my best to steer the direction of the conversation toward property rights but they would steer it back toward hacking :D ...
the never-ending struggle between age and youth :D
Eg ;)
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'hacker' is a word I really try not to use anymore. There is just too much baggage with the word and too many assumptions made by other people when you do use it. It's meaning is not clear enough anymore.
If anyone says they are a hacker to me, my first thoughts are of skiddies. It's just how the word is tainted in my mind.
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Maybe we should start using words like ninja and samurai instead of hackers :rolleyes:
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codewarrior?
network zen master?
packet craftsman? (ooh, I like this one)
Security Warrior is already taken by O'Reilly...
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Hackers are not all bad.... but there are some idiots out there.
As someone investing in a future in 'computer security' I have found it invaluable to actually learn how the whole hacking process works - this allows me to better understand what im protecting.
For example, taking a 'CEH' course (certified ethical hacker) will make you better equiped to protect your network. There are many different names to distinguish advanced computer users: Black hat hacker, White hat hacker.... cracker... cyber criminal - whatever, im not disputing the different deffinitions here.
Please dont tar all hackers with the same brush, though I have my own network to break into, when I started out I have no other option but to play woth other peoples boxes.... of course I never damaged of defaced, nor did I steal information.
The media over plays stories and has made this scare culture... they make us think anyone with a backpack or a big coat is probably a terrorist. Dont let the actions of the few effect the views of the many.
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Hi ash897,
It only takes one to destroy the reputation of many...
one bad apple destroys the whole barrel...
a man will always be remembered for his mistakes...
make one mistake and all the good you have done is quickly forgotten...
( insert your cliche' here )
the term ' hacker ' is a lost word...like the word god...it has sooooo many attached meanings and definitions that it has become rendered useless to define anything accurately.
Eg ;)
