Sorry double post =/
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Sorry double post =/
Dude. We are talking about what has happend in the last 50 years. Who the **** gives a **** about what happend 800-2000+ years ago.
Dalek if you think that all the stuff we in the west +Russia/China has done is okey then you shouldn't have a problem with terrorists at all.
I was under the impression we were discussing North Korea, I don't give a rats ass what the US/USSR/GDR/China did 50yrs ago either,it's right fecking now we are talking about, so get your head out of your arse and concentrate on what's at stake today...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yugoslavia?
As for terrorists, you guy's in Sweden can keep them all to your little selves, most of them live in Europe anyway's..:rolleyes:
Well no matter what the insult was directed if you belived that most of the military actions these countries have done were okey that then you were an idiot. Since you obviously didn't understand the question/statement and insulted me back on the basis that I said you was an idiot then it just prooves my point.
As they say:
~Pwned~
^.^ Withdrawing from this debate now since there's little point in debating with an idiot.
Point..I was not responding to the "idiot" remark, I was responding to the "idiot" who thinks he knows what the feck he's talking about..."YOU".Quote:
Originally Posted by Yugoslavia?
The original question was answered, most right thinking adults are opposed to Kim/NK having nuclear weaponry, you started the stuff with well if the US has it why can't NK have it, which is a childish response and is basically Kims modus operandi. waaaa waaaa.
Yet you haven't given one shred of evidence that NK deserves to be able to make Nuclear Bombs...not Nuclear Power. so either put up or shut up.
NOTHING will happen without China. Until they decide they are going to become as politically open as they are starting to become econimically.
When the Berlin wall fell communism no longer had E. Germany as its bunker - it was faced with a hostile regime directly against its borders. Within 2 years it started to break apart.
History does repeat itself and the Chinese know this - they will never allow their bunker from conflicting politics to fall until it no longer matters to them.
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Originally Posted by Yugoslavia?
....nub....grow up
North Korea has been seeing serious problems since the late 1980's, and with the collapse of the PDS in the early-mid-1990's, a famine occurred. The causes of the famine are pretty complex, but the main factor was the end of aid from the collapse of the USSR. Inputs evaporated, and the rest is history. However, looking back even further, DPRK has always been dependent on aid despite the Juche. Juche was formed during the Sino-Soviet dispute, and Kim Il Sung's need to be adulated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Moo
I can go on and on, but the nuke problem is simply a ploy for aid. Lately, this has not been working. So what does Kim do? Go to China to beg for aid, which was not fruitful.
Now a rumored third succession is in the works, but there is little evidence to know where Kim Jong Eun is at, if any at all.